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meanwhile the sheer geniuses over at MS have figured out how to 4K@60 with a 6TFlops Scorpio

you mean 4k low settings at 20-30fps biggrin.gif

We already know exactly what you can do on 4k res with an r9 290x of performance
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jaggies bother some people and tesselation can really enhance the visuals
i'd argue if you're gonna turn all that off might as well not run at 4K

So just turn them down so you still get good visuals. Dont necessarily need to be fully turned off.
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If this thread had more garbage in it Greenpeace would protest it.

Pretty sure that the 1080ti and Titan-P will be 512 bit cards at this point, the GQDR5 (x) cuts the number of chips needed in half. We may see the 1080ti being a bank-disabled/reduced bit-width of the 512bit TitanP.

I would be a bit shocked if Titan didn't come with HBMv2 on it. I could possibly see a 1080 Ti with GDDR5X, but that would sour me a little.
    
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I would be a bit shocked if Titan didn't come with HBMv2 on it. I could possibly see a 1080 Ti with GDDR5X, but that would sour me a little.

Is there much between GDDR5X and HBM2 in terms of overall gains in a gaming perspective though?
 
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I would be a bit shocked if Titan didn't come with HBMv2 on it. I could possibly see a 1080 Ti with GDDR5X, but that would sour me a little.

The 1080 not having HBM2 soured me a little, the 1080ti not having it would sour me a lot. At least it would make the choice between AMD or Nvidia quite a bit easier.

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Is there much between GDDR5X and HBM2 in terms of overall gains in a gaming perspective though?

That part of it doesn't really even matter to me. When you buy the top tier cards you expect top tier hardware. If AMD is offering HBM2 on their top tier cards and Nvidia doesn't then they are automatically second class for me, performance would be irrelevant at that point.
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many. GTA5, witcher3, division, rise of the tomb raider. (there are some newer games that i don't own, afaik Hitman is very demanding etc) problem is, when people see benchmarks they only care about these nice looking avarage fps graphs. what matters the most for me is minimal fps. 80fps or 200fps avarage is meaningless to me if i get drops to 50s or 40s from time to time.

I poked fun before but in all fairness I think this is a valid point - there is no such thing as overkill if your minimum FPS is below 60.
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Is there much between GDDR5X and HBM2 in terms of overall gains in a gaming perspective though?

Hard to really say, since we haven't seen HBMv2 yet. One would imagine that HBMv2 on a Titan class Pascal card would outperform a GDDR5X variant, especially at 4K+.
    
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Hard to really say, since we haven't seen HBMv2 yet. One would imagine that HBMv2 on a Titan class Pascal card would outperform a GDDR5X variant, especially at 4K+.

If anything the gp100 has a enomous l2 cache that is tie to the insane bus width (4096 bits). Even with just 50% shader more it comes with twice the cache. Among others like registry etc. this is the biggest advantage and i believe gp100 has a different class of Ipc per core compare to other gp10x variant. Giving it beyond 50% perf with only 40% increase in core count. We shall see.
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jaggies bother some people and tesselation can really enhance the visuals
i'd argue if you're gonna turn all that off might as well not run at 4K

You can still run tessellation at 4k (albeit at lowered settings) and I would agree that its not a feature you'd want to turn off. At 4k, however, I really find your "jaggies" comment dubious at best. Pixel size on even a 40" 4k monitor is miniscule so those "jaggies" would be very insignificant to the point of merely being nitpicky by complaining about them IMO. AA is just not needed at 4k. Its use may result in a slightly better image quality but most assuredly is not the deal-breaker that Tess-off would be. Of course everybody sees differently so my opinion is definitely not the end all, be all (but I have noticed many ridiculous "claims" of certain people that their eyes are just oh-so-so sensitive that they simply can't live with extremely minor issues, as though they would go blind from them or something).
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That part of it doesn't really even matter to me. When you buy the top tier cards you expect top tier hardware. If AMD is offering HBM2 on their top tier cards and Nvidia doesn't then they are automatically second class for me, performance would be irrelevant at that point.

I disagree with this statement to a point. HBM didn't make the Fury X a better card than the 980Ti with its regular GDDR5 so performance is ultimately the most important metric. That said, it would be ridiculous for the new Titan to NOT have HBM2 considering its many advantages and AMD's assured use of it in Vega. Perhaps the new Titan would be faster than Vega regardless of memory config but I don't see them using anything but HBM2 on their next flagship card...
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