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I doubt 50% faster too tbh (maaaybe from the 375W one, but 375W is insane)


but we'll see
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It's very possible it may well be with 40% more shaders and HBM2 memory. Should overclock even higher given that it's got two 8-pin power connectors, giving it what, a theoretical cap of pulling 375+ watts? Since the HBM2 should draw less power than the GDDR5X memory that's even more power to the GPU. Would explain why the card is 12" long too, probably for cooling.

Slap that baby under water with a custom bios and the 50% curbstomping of the 1080 shouldn't be any issue.

Power isn't what's holding 1080 back, so 2x8 pins on the Titan P doesn't mean it'll overclock higher. If anything the big chips always overclock a little worse because of having more of everything and thus more potential weak links.

Also this:
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I fail to see how Titan P can be 50% faster than 1080 with only 40% more shaders and likely a lower clock as well.

Titan X was exactly 1.5x of 980 in terms of chip specs, but only ended up being about 25-30% faster. Needed a quite significant overclock to open the gap to 50%, but even then it took OC Titan X vs stock 980.

I think Titan P might end up being 50% faster in select games with a pushed to the limit OC vs 1080, but in no way will it be 50% faster in all scenarios and certainly not stock vs stock or OC vs OC.
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Power isn't what's holding 1080 back, so 2x8 pins on the Titan P doesn't mean it'll overclock higher. If anything the big chips always overclock a little worse because of having more of everything and thus more potential weak links.

Also this:

Very true, it doesn't look like power is holding back any of the new GPUs. I fully expect the Titan P to overclock a bit worse than the 1080, very much like GM204 v.s. GM200.

However, how bandwidth limited is the 1080? With HBM2 a Titan P should have 100% more bandwidth than the 1080 to feed its 40% more shaders. Not that it changes anything for me if it is 40 instead of 50% faster than the 1080, I just want something significantly faster than my 980Ti. tongue.gif
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However, how bandwidth limited is the 1080?
on 1440p its definitely not

on 4K idk, buty I think it isnt a major issue there either
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on 1440p its definitely not

on 4K idk, buty I think it isnt a major issue there either

Any reviews? I cannot find any good benchmarks where the impact of overclocking the memory on the 1080 was tested, everyone keeps benching with both overclocked (or just the core).
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This is the closest I could find: https://www.reddit.com/r/nvidia/comments/4mm5zt/for_those_overclocking_1080_memory_please_read/

But just looking at the OC results from various sites, they seem to fall in line with expectations, so can't see any obvious bandwidth issues.
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This is the closest I could find: https://www.reddit.com/r/nvidia/comments/4mm5zt/for_those_overclocking_1080_memory_please_read/

But just looking at the OC results from various sites, they seem to fall in line with expectations, so can't see any obvious bandwidth issues.

I am sure it isn't starved for bandwidth but even the Fury gains performance with a memory overclock, HBM2 should add performance compared to 256-bit GDDR5X.
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Looks like this is the push Intel needed to unleash there super tech processors instead of inching along with 10% gaines each release to hold AMD down. Lets hope!
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Looks like this is the push Intel needed to unleash there super tech processors instead of inching along with 10% gaines each release to hold AMD down. Lets hope!

so true
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Looks like this is the push Intel needed to unleash there super tech processors instead of inching along with 10% gaines each release to hold AMD down. Lets hope!

I think Zen is going to be the push that Intel needs to release something more impressive than the meh products they've been releasing since SB, not some new card from Nvidia...
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