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I disagree I played on the Acer Predator hb271hk which is superior in every way to the 4k display you game on(Input lag/ Gsync etc.) and it only took me a week to send it back. 4K simply put is just not ready. Even with Gsync and maintaining 60fps things felt laggy and sloppy. No matter the game. Fallout 4, BF4, Doom, Battefront, FCPrimal. I believe are current available DisplayPort tech is whats causing this experience. No matter how strong your PC is and how well designed the Display is the cable struggling to push things along smoothly. In today's market I believe the best available experience in PC gaming is the X34. Unreal immersion, fantastic picture quality and vibrancy along with 100hz and Gsync. I played on a friends this past friday and sent my 4K back today and ordered the X34.

I agree.

I picked up an XB270HK (4k, ips, gsync) and it was a great monitor but playing battlefield (all of them.) just was not happening... the other games looked great but until they can get 4k at 100hz+ it's a no go for me.
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History never repeats but it rhymes. This is my prediction:

1080 GTX -> Titan P

if no Vega (very long delay), time passes and 1180 GTX is based on GP100/GP102
if Vega is delayed, 1080TI is delayed
if Vega isn't competitive, time passes and 1180 GTX is based on GP100/GP102
if Vega is competitive, 1080 TI to beat it
if Vega is competitive with 1080 TI, expect Volta sooner than later

Personally I'm hoping for the last two options; they are the best for all consumers. But I don't take anything for granted... we could see another 680 GTX -> Titan -> 780 GTX should AMD stumble again.

As for Montreal, who cares?

Where is the Lightning version of the 1080 then? Its not coming. Msi skipped the 980 with the Lightning and saved it for the 980Ti. Same thing will happen this generation. 1080Ti is coming. Book it. Lol if you think Nvidia cares about cutting into 1080 sells. 3 high end cards on the market is better then 2.
 
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Where is the Lightning version of the 1080 then? Its not coming. Msi skipped the 980 with the Lightning and saved it for the 980Ti. Same thing will happen this generation. 1080Ti is coming. Book it. Lol if you think Nvidia cares about cutting into 1080 sells. 3 high end cards on the market is better then 2.

Good point about the Lightning, MSI would be more likly to know if there was a higher end card comming out. Of course, Nvidia might let them make a Lightning Titan instead.

I agree, cutting into 1080 sales with the 1080 Ti doesn't even make sense, Nvidia makes more money on the Ti. They might worry about losing a Titan sale to a 1080 Ti but they would want to sell a 1080Ti instead of a 1080.
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Good point about the Lightning, MSI would be more likly to know if there was a higher end card comming out. Of course, Nvidia might let them make a Lightning Titan instead.

I agree, cutting into 1080 sales with the 1080 Ti doesn't even make sense, Nvidia makes more money on the Ti. They might worry about losing a Titan sale to a 1080 Ti but they would want to sell a 1080Ti instead of a 1080.

Bro you're giving me goosebumps haha. Anyways very slim chance we ever get aftermarket pcb's on the Titan brand. Haven't had one yet.
 
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I agree, cutting into 1080 sales with the 1080 Ti doesn't even make sense, Nvidia makes more money on the Ti. They might worry about losing a Titan sale to a 1080 Ti but they would want to sell a 1080Ti instead of a 1080.
Ideally they'd want to sell the 1080 GTX which is cheaper to produce for 600-700 bucks.. then eventually release its larger brother later when yields are better as a 1180 GTX. (All while selling it as a Titan beforehand for 1000$+)

Worse case is they have to compete with AMD and release the larger die before yields improve, thus costing them more in production costs, while selling it at a competitive price point. Which usually sits around the 600-800$.

Its basic economics gys.. Its also why we never saw a 680 TI.

I know you want an affordable 600 mm^2 pascal chip. I want it too.. but it won't magically materialize without AMD.
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Of course, Nvidia might let them make a Lightning Titan instead.

Highly doubt that. Nvidia has never let there be any custom Titans at all, dont see why they would start now.
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Ideally they'd want to sell the 1080 GTX which is cheaper to produce for 600-700 bucks.. then eventually release its larger brother later when yields are better as a 1180 GTX. (All while selling it as a Titan beforehand for 1000$+)

Worse case is they have to compete with AMD and release the larger die before yields improve, thus costing them more in production costs, while selling it at a competitive price point. Which usually sits around the 600-800$.

Its basic economics gys.. Its also why we never saw a 680 TI.


I know you want an affordable 600 mm^2 pascal chip. I want it too.. but it won't magically materialize without AMD.

That particular history is flawed. Before the 780Ti the Ti brand was reserved for mid-range chips like the 560Ti and the 660Ti. Had nothing to do with competition from Amd. Every since the 780Ti Nvidia has reserved the Ti brand to the higher-end 80 series chip. It has worked out very well for them. I don't see anything changing this generation.
 
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That particular history is flawed. Before the 780Ti the Ti brand was reserved for mid-range chips like the 560Ti and the 660Ti. Had nothing to do with competition from Amd. Every since the 780Ti Nvidia has reserved the Ti brand to the higher-end 80 series chip. It has worked out very well for them. I don't see anything changing this generation.

Then explain the 680 GTX relative to the 780 GTX and why they could justify selling the first Titan.
Then compare the release date of the 780 TI with the R9 290
Then compare the release date of the 980 TI with the Fury line.

Decisions aren't made on a whim nor do they just follow a pattern. Its a dance, like a nice tango, with AMD.


Edit: Actually if the Vega launch was imminent and the early numbers showed it beating the 1080 GTX by a large number we wouldn't be getting TITAN rumors, we'd be getting 1080 TI rumors. And we probably wouldn't see a Titan based on Pascal. The Titan brand only makes sense if the TI card isn't imminent.
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Then explain the 680 GTX relative to the 780 GTX and why they could justify selling the first Titan.
Then compare the release date of the 780 TI with the R9 290
Then compare the release date of the 980 TI with the Fury line.

Decisions aren't made on a whim nor do they just follow a pattern. Its a dance, like a nice tango, with AMD.

I seriously doubt AMD means anything to Nvidia this round, they are competing with their old linup, not AMD, for at least the rest of this year.

It is hard to tango when your partner isn't on the dance floor. tongue.gif
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