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post #81 of 956
Whats with All this bottlenecking fear stuff?

sounds lke certain reddit subreddits

you will not be battlenecked anywhere with a decent cpu.

unless you plan on playing at 480p

use dsr run at 4k

turn on ingame AA

that should cut your excess gpu power down quite a bit.
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Well, my 3770K at 4.6Ghz botttlenecks my 1070 in a few titles at 1080p, and a 3770K at 4.6Ghz isn't that much slower in games than an overclocked 6700K in CPU limited scenarios. A Pascal Titan absolutely will require an absolutely blazing 4 core 8 threads CPU at least; we are talking a 6700K at 4.8Ghz+ with fast RAM if you are the kind of person who like to be GPU bound at all times.
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Probably stock 6950x. I bet you my OC'd 5960x won't bottleneck one of those babies.

Funny you mention this....

Jayz 2 cents over on youtube has a PC running 3 titan x's with a 5960x and says the 5960x was bottlenecking the titans to his amazement....

Also good to remember that actual amount of cpu cores has little to no effect on GPU performance....

For example a 6700k>5960x for pure fps....

I agree three Titan X will be bottlencked with an overclocked 5960X. Heck, my three 980 Ti's are bottlenecked by my 5960x on benchmarks like valley. That said, I really don't think a single Titan P will be able to push the same kind of horsepower as three Titan X. wink.gif
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well it is no surprise that a big Pascal card is coming. People should know by now that Nvidia starts with a mid-range card GTX X80 GPU then transitions into the Titan which is much better, but also much much more expensive.

I think we can take the basis of old X80 -> Titan card to see the performance gains. People shouldn't be surprised to see 35%+ gains on the GP102. Depending on clock it might even be close to 50%, but I doubt the GP102 is clocked as high out of the box as the GTX1080, so 35% would be a realistic expectation. Same happened with GTX 680 -> Vanilla Titan, GTX 980 -> Titan X.

The real questions are when does it release and how expensive is it going to be? If we go with recent history then the GP102 should release in November/December 2016 with a price of 999$. But I do not believe that the PascalTitan will be 999$ considering the chance of AMD having anything remotely close to challenge it is close to 0%. AMD may have RX 490 VEGA by then, but it is unlike that RX480 -> RX490 is like a 3 times performance increase. It will probably end up between 1070 and 1080.

My personal speculation :

- December 2016
- 35% on GTX1080 both stock
- 1299$
- 478mm²~
- GDDR5X
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well it is no surprise that a big Pascal card is coming. People should know by now that Nvidia starts with a mid-range card GTX X80 GPU then transitions into the Titan which is much better, but also much much more expensive.

I think we can take the basis of old X80 -> Titan card to see the performance gains. People shouldn't be surprised to see 35%+ gains on the GP102. Depending on clock it might even be close to 50%, but I doubt the GP102 is clocked as high out of the box as the GTX1080, so 35% would be a realistic expectation. Same happened with GTX 680 -> Vanilla Titan, GTX 980 -> Titan X.

The real questions are when does it release and how expensive is it going to be? If we go with recent history then the GP102 should release in November/December 2016 with a price of 999$. But I do not believe that the PascalTitan will be 999$ considering the chance of AMD having anything remotely close to challenge it is close to 0%. AMD may have RX 490 VEGA by then, but it is unlike that RX480 -> RX490 is like a 3 times performance increase. It will probably end up between 1070 and 1080.

My personal speculation :

- December 2016
- 35% on GTX1080 both stock
- 1299$
- 478mm²~
- GDDR5X

And then a 1080Ti launches a month or two later and performs within a margin of error of the Titan for only 2/3 the price. It is ok though, the Titan is still better because it has a fancy name.
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And then a 1080Ti launches a month or two later and performs within a margin of error of the Titan for only 2/3 the price. It is ok though, the Titan is still better because it has a fancy name.

That is how it always will be. (or was in recent history)

Titan Pascal probably has like 3840~ cuda cores and the GTX 1080 Ti like 3500~ with less VRAM.
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And then a 1080Ti launches a month or two later and performs within a margin of error of the Titan for only 2/3 the price. It is ok though, the Titan is still better because it has a fancy name.
Gotta admit though. Titan sounds pretty pimp.
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So, 1080Ti just a 25% upgrade of 1080 for 899$ confirmed?
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well it is no surprise that a big Pascal card is coming. People should know by now that Nvidia starts with a mid-range card GTX X80 GPU then transitions into the Titan which is much better, but also much much more expensive.

I think we can take the basis of old X80 -> Titan card to see the performance gains. People shouldn't be surprised to see 35%+ gains on the GP102. Depending on clock it might even be close to 50%, but I doubt the GP102 is clocked as high out of the box as the GTX1080, so 35% would be a realistic expectation. Same happened with GTX 680 -> Vanilla Titan, GTX 980 -> Titan X.

The real questions are when does it release and how expensive is it going to be? If we go with recent history then the GP102 should release in November/December 2016 with a price of 999$. But I do not believe that the PascalTitan will be 999$ considering the chance of AMD having anything remotely close to challenge it is close to 0%. AMD may have RX 490 VEGA by then, but it is unlike that RX480 -> RX490 is like a 3 times performance increase. It will probably end up between 1070 and 1080.

My personal speculation :

- December 2016
- 35% on GTX1080 both stock
- 1299$
- 478mm²~
- GDDR5X

Are you really comparing a card that is aimed at the mainstream market (RX 480) with Vega? RX 480 has GDDR5, while Vega will have HBM2 and be a bigger die.


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Are you really comparing a card that is aimed at the mainstream market (RX 480) with Vega? RX 480 has GDDR5, while Vega will have HBM2 and be a bigger die.

AMD-Vega-10-Polaris-10-Polaris-11-Feature-635x345.jpg
but does that Vega die look big enough to you to go against 1080Ti ? redface.gif

granted its a Vega10, not Vega 11

but Vega will still take some of Polaris tech, as well as its 14nm GLoFo (as far as I know) .. and that we can already judge from the 480


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And then a 1080Ti launches a month or two later and performs within a margin of error of the Titan for only 2/3 the price.
yes, ppl knew all that when Titan X released too .. and they still bought those Titan Xs
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