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Are you really comparing a card that is aimed at the mainstream market (RX 480) with Vega? RX 480 has GDDR5, while Vega will have HBM2 and be a bigger die.


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read my post again. I said it's unlikely that RX480 -> RX490 is a 3 times performance increase. If I am wrong and VEGA RX490 is 3 times as fast as Polaris RX480 then I will apologize to you personally thumb.gif

I never compared them directly I simply said what I said again above. Please don't put words in my mouth. Thank you.
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So, 1080Ti just a 25% upgrade of 1080 for 899$ confirmed?
how do you figure ?

the OP says Titan P = 50% over 1080

that, if true, would make 1080Ti 40%+ over 1080
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The only thing I'm curious about is where they price these. The fact that there will be two Titan branded cards scares me. I felt burned by the first Titan after I bought two of them. Of course it was my own choice to pony up $2K, but I didn't appreciate the 780 coming out 3 months later. I swore then that I would never pony up for a Titan again. My tune has changed a little bit, if it were the right card. I guess I've been conditioned on ridiculous prices like most others around here. Their plan is working.

I have said all along that if I could get back to a single card (which I'd like to) that matches my 980 Ti SLI performance, I'd pay for it. However, I'm nearly certain that "big Titan" will cost more than $1K if there are two Titan cards. That really wouldn't be that great of a deal considering I paid $1350 for 980 Ti SLI performance a year ago.

The other stuff isn't much of a surprise. Being 50% faster than GP104 is exactly what I expected based on rumored specs and history. It's also not surprising that it will be bottlenecked by CPUs in the right scenario. That is nothing new for high end GPUs. GPU reviews often show GPU bound games to demonstrate a cards performance, but there are several games that are hard on a CPU as well.

I will be like everyone else, waiting to see how much of my body I have to sell to get one. I'm afraid high end PC gaming is just getting too ridiculous. Now that the top end CPU is $1750 I wouldn't be surprised to see NV try to slap some astronomical price tag on the big Titan card. As if $1000 wasn't already astronomical enough.
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The only thing I'm curious about is where they price these. The fact that there will be two Titan branded cards scares me. I felt burned by the first Titan after I bought two of them. Of course it was my own choice to pony up $2K, but I didn't appreciate the 780 coming out 3 months later. I swore then that I would never pony up for a Titan again. My tune has changed a little bit, if it were the right card. I guess I've been conditioned on ridiculous prices like most others around here. Their plan is working.
if you dont want to get burned money-wise - never buy Titans, period

only buy X80Tis cards each gen (or every second gen)
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The only thing I'm curious about is where they price these. The fact that there will be two Titan branded cards scares me. I felt burned by the first Titan after I bought two of them. Of course it was my own choice to pony up $2K, but I didn't appreciate the 780 coming out 3 months later. I swore then that I would never pony up for a Titan again. My tune has changed a little bit, if it were the right card. I guess I've been conditioned on ridiculous prices like most others around here. Their plan is working.

I have said all along that if I could get back to a single card (which I'd like to) that matches my 980 Ti SLI performance, I'd pay for it. However, I'm nearly certain that "big Titan" will cost more than $1K if there are two Titan cards. That really wouldn't be that great of a deal considering I paid $1350 for 980 Ti SLI performance a year ago.

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haha very true. There were two polls on a german forum in 2013 and in 2015. Both asking the same thing "What are you ready to pay for a Titan card?"

In 2013 when the Titan Vanilla came out it was like 95% of people said 600€ or lower. Only 1% was ready to pay 999$ and only like 0,1% was ready to pay even more.

In 2015 when the Titan X came out at 999$ it was like 60% of people said 600€ or lower and 8% were ready to pay 999$ or more.

Nvidias marketing/strategy is working really well.

I bet that if they asked the same question shortly before Titan Pascal comes out like 15% are ready to pay 999$ or more for it simply because of how expensive the GTX 1080 is.
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but does that Vega die look big enough to you to go against 1080Ti ? redface.gif

If that picture is to scale than Vega10 is 80-100% bigger than Polaris 10, if that translates to 50-70% more performance would be it fast enough?
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haha very true. There were two polls on a german forum in 2013 and in 2015. Both asking the same thing "What are you ready to pay for a Titan card?"

In 2013 when the Titan Vanilla came out it was like 95% of people said 600€ or lower. Only 1% was ready to pay 999$ and only like 0,1% was ready to pay even more.

In 2015 when the Titan X came out at 999$ it was like 60% of people said 600€ or lower and 8% were ready to pay 999$ or more.

Nvidias marketing/strategy is working really well.

I bet that if they asked the same question shortly before Titan Pascal comes out like 15% are ready to pay 999$ or more for it simply because of how expensive the GTX 1080 is.

It's not really marketing strategy tbh, it's just each year the competition falls a little further behind allowing nvidia to get away with more.
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if you dont want to get burned money-wise - never buy Titans, period

only buy X80Tis cards each gen (or every second gen)

That's probably a valid point. It just all depends on where they all lie in price and performance.
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If that picture is to scale than Vega10 is 80-100% bigger than Polaris 10, if that translates to 50-70% more performance would be it fast enough?
fast enough for what specifically ?

https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/AMD/RX_480/24.html - 1080 is 80%+ faster than a ref 480; 1070 is 50%+ faster
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If that picture is to scale than Vega10 is 80-100% bigger than Polaris 10, if that translates to 50-70% more performance would be it fast enough?
fast enough for what specifically ?

https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/AMD/RX_480/24.html - 1080 is 80%+ faster than a ref 480; 1070 is 50%+ faster

Look at the quote, it's a rhetorical question smile.gif
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