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Originally Posted by Jpmboy View Post

^^ Titans have always been 4 figure cards... and a halo product really does not impact sales of the down-card skus. Evidenced by TX launching first. Different target markets.

gonna have to get two of these for sure! biggrin.gif

We're talking about Titan P vs 1080 here, not Titan P vs 1080 Ti.

980 was already on the market for 6 months before Titan X released, so the consumers have already been sufficiently milked. The Titan X also cost 81% more for about 30-35% more performance, so that very much goes in line with what I said about NOT wanting to have 1:1 scaling of performance with price.
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i will buy 3 Titan P's, sli, and 2 x 2699V4's on a asus z10pe-d16 ws with 1024GB RAM.

 

it will be used to browse porn sites.

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i will buy 3 Titan P's, sli, and 2 x 2699V4's on a asus z10pe-d16 ws with 1024GB RAM.

it will be used to browse porn sites.

Do >16GB DDR4 ram sticks exist? If not you'll have to settle for 256GB ram tongue.gif
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Originally Posted by iLeakStuff View Post

Lets see:
Nvidia out with high end, ultra high end and midrange in August.

AMD is out with midrange.

GG AMD.
Hope Zen works out better for them than this "always late to the party" strategy they have with GPUs.

I got boo'ed out of a rx480 thread for saying this about a month before it's release. My point was AMD is always a quarter late with it's releases. Had the rx480 come out with the 1080 and 1070 it would have been ok. it probably needed to be -$50 cheaper to be a truly great release, but it was solid. The problem the rx-480 had was it was a card for a market which didn't exist. Everyone who wanted a card in that performance bracket already bought a 970... or a used 780 or a 290 or a 390 almost 2 years earlier. saturated market, poor quality card $50 over AMD market value for it's offerings, guaranteed it to be a flop. But the biggest problem of all was (as i pointed out then) people would just say "wait for the 1060".

THAT IS AMD's PROBLEM in a nutshell. No one wants their ****. Not at the price they want to sell it anyway. Nvidia is in the enviable position right now to basically be able to release **** on a stick and people would line up to buy it like sheeple buy apple products. The only way you beat that is offer a better product for the same price OR offer the same product for a significantly lesser price. You can't sell an inferior product at any price if you're AMD.

Zen is going to be a repeat. It will probably overclock like a dream, perform like a haswell, and give you more cores per $$, but people are still going to say "skylake-e is coming out shortly, wait for that!" or "Kaby lake will be released in 4 weeks, wait for that!" and they'll go no where with it. They're completely out of touch with their market
 
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Do >16GB DDR4 ram sticks exist? If not you'll have to settle for 256GB ram tongue.gif

Can that xeon use registered memory? If so there are larger sticks than 16GB, if not then none larger than 16GB yet.
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I got boo'ed out of a rx480 thread for saying this about a month before it's release. My point was AMD is always a quarter late with it's releases. Had the rx480 come out with the 1080 and 1070 it would have been ok. it probably needed to be -$50 cheaper to be a truly great release, but it was solid. The problem the rx-480 had was it was a card for a market which didn't exist. Everyone who wanted a card in that performance bracket already bought a 970... or a used 780 or a 290 or a 390 almost 2 years earlier. saturated market, poor quality card $50 over AMD market value for it's offerings, guaranteed it to be a flop. But the biggest problem of all was (as i pointed out then) people would just say "wait for the 1060".

THAT IS AMD's PROBLEM in a nutshell. No one wants their ****. Not at the price they want to sell it anyway. Nvidia is in the enviable position right now to basically be able to release **** on a stick and people would line up to buy it like sheeple buy apple products. The only way you beat that is offer a better product for the same price OR offer the same product for a significantly lesser price. You can't sell an inferior product at any price if you're AMD.

Zen is going to be a repeat. It will probably overclock like a dream, perform like a haswell, and give you more cores per $$, but people are still going to say "skylake-e is coming out shortly, wait for that!" or "Kaby lake will be released in 4 weeks, wait for that!" and they'll go no where with it. They're completely out of touch with their market

 

I mean, I follow your train of thought and I wish that AMD was quicker on the draw as well, but it's not like RX 480's aren't moving. If Zen can offer Haswell IPC as a hex/octa-core at a quad i7 price, it will move as well.

 

I get what you're saying and think that it applies 100% to enthusiasts. To the lion's share of the market, though, I think AMD's approach makes sense. We enthusiasts might tell somebody to wait for Skylake-e but your average PC gamer isn't buying HEDT and quad Titans.

     
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What are the specs of your PC? Do you even own a high-end gpu? I'm going to guess the answer is No. Titan owners don't buy 1080's. Titan owners don't give a hoot of the premium price to own a Titan. Yet people like you continue to try to justify why or why you would not buy a Titan. Price/Performance blah blah blah. You're not buying one. Ok. We get it.

You are on a dreamland. I can afford a titan easily, but for that price i could be better off with a pair of ftw 1080s.

Stop trying to act bossy just because u are rich. There are more ppl here that can afford alot more than u can imagined without bragging.

I am not even justify why 1080 is better than titan, i am saying there is no need for 1080 to even drop in price with titan around. Read with your eyes before you even comment.

PS: just in case u didnt realised. I am in fact waiting for titan. How fast will it be will determine if it was worth the hassle of waiting, over a pair of 1080s. Not the budget.
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Funniest part is dude doesn't even own a Titan (X) himself. rolleyes.gif
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Funniest part is dude doesn't even own a Titan (X) himself. rolleyes.gif

 

Those posts always make me laugh. The real Fellowship of the Bling types are only ever noticed if you pay close attention. They're not bragging about what they have or belittling anybody else. You'll catch them in a thread about a particular monitor bug, where they'll ask if anybody else with a 9-panel wall-mounted configuration has encountered X problem. Or, in a thread about a new driver, wondering if anybody else with four water-cooled TX's is encountering this odd scaling bug.

 

The silliness of defining an enthusiast by whether or not they buy the most expensive of everything is silly, IMO. Most enthusiasts spend, but not always on a halo product, though on the whole we're more likely to buy or at least consider one. Some enthusiasts like to try a little bit of everything, some have a particular niche they love and will have like 20 of a particular item. Many will weigh 'most expensive' versus 'pretty close on perf. and less needlessly price-jacked'. It's about the love of the game, not how much you spend on each component!

     
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