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I think you pretty much just delineated the problem with "hardware enthusiasts" these days. Sadly in this day and age of "overclocking by dragging a few sliders", a "hardware enthusiast" is simply someone who has deep pockets who always chases the latest and greatest regardless of whether it makes sense or not.
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There isnt any reason to why Titan P and 1080 cant be on the market simultaniously.
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My point from start is to highlight titan doesnt need to compete with 1080 for the price. Thus no need to drop in price.
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There will be a drop of the prices anyway, like it or not, maybe not for Titan P, but i am sure there will be for 1080, because it's not quality card at first place and people already tasted that, see you in few months wink.gif
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There will be a drop of the prices anyway, like it or not, maybe not for Titan P, but i am sure there will be for 1080, because it's not quality card at first place and people already tasted that, see you in few months wink.gif
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I didnt get the 1080, and if I am on the Titan whether if 1080 drop or not it wont really matter right?


The more interesting is how much faster is Titan really faster, not just based on "theoretical" ideal figure.
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There will be a drop of the prices anyway, like it or not, maybe not for Titan P, but i am sure there will be for 1080, because it's not quality card at first place and people already tasted that, see you in few months wink.gif
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They won't magically lower the price unless there's competition. Just look at intel's desktop processors.. same price each generation, same quantity of cores and features.. only die shrinks which lower production costs and increase profit margins. If people are buying all the stock at current price levels and AMD doesn't compete with the 1080 GTX directly then the price won't drop and they'll never release a 1080 TI. They'll release the bigger die much later once the sales of 1080 GTX slow down significantly and brand it as 1180 GTX and the cycle continues.

Without competition you get monopolies, high prices and stagnation.
Edited by Lee Patekar - 7/21/16 at 7:08am
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just hope its not a rumor, coz really need avid upgrade, but 1080 is not amazing, i think the 1080 Ti will be the single card 4K messiah (Titan P will probably be some stupid price).

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http://www.crossmap.com/news/nvidia-pascal-news-rumors-and-updates-geforce-gtx-titan-p-is-the-true-2016-flagship-gpu-of-nvidia-29558
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We're talking about Titan P vs 1080 here, not Titan P vs 1080 Ti.

980 was already on the market for 6 months before Titan X released, so the consumers have already been sufficiently milked. The Titan X also cost 81% more for about 30-35% more performance, so that very much goes in line with what I said about NOT wanting to have 1:1 scaling of performance with price.
Sorry bud.... I had 2 TXs before the 980 was retail.
In either case, halo products are for a limited market. Whether you are that type of "enthusiast", defined in whatever contorted way you choose is likely based on how much "casino" money is in your pocket.
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Those posts always make me laugh. The real Fellowship of the Bling types are only ever noticed if you pay close attention. They're not bragging about what they have or belittling anybody else. You'll catch them in a thread about a particular monitor bug, where they'll ask if anybody else with a 9-panel wall-mounted configuration has encountered X problem. Or, in a thread about a new driver, wondering if anybody else with four water-cooled TX's is encountering this odd scaling bug.

The silliness of defining an enthusiast by whether or not they buy the most expensive of everything is silly, IMO. Most enthusiasts spend, but not always on a halo product, though on the whole we're more likely to buy or at least consider one. Some enthusiasts like to try a little bit of everything, some have a particular niche they love and will have like 20 of a particular item. Many will weigh 'most expensive' versus 'pretty close on perf. and less needlessly price-jacked'. It's about the love of the game, not how much you spend on each component!
well said. +1
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I think you pretty much just delineated the problem with "hardware enthusiasts" these days. Sadly in this day and age of "overclocking by dragging a few sliders", a "hardware enthusiast" is simply someone who has deep pockets who always chases the latest and greatest regardless of whether it makes sense or not.
dragging sliders, soldering shunts, modifying bios'... and having deep pockets. tongue.gif
Sense has nothing to do with any of this... especially if you are talking gaming.
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http://www.crossmap.com/news/nvidia-pascal-news-rumors-and-updates-geforce-gtx-titan-p-is-the-true-2016-flagship-gpu-of-nvidia-29558
Sorry bud.... I had 2 TXs before the 980 was retail.
In either case, halo products are for a limited market. Whether you are that type of "enthusiast", defined in whatever contorted way you choose is likely based on how much "casino" money is in your pocket.

You had two TXs beore 980 went retail?

Well then you must've gotten them through unofficial means, which means you're the exception rather than the norm. Halo products or not, it very much matters the time and order of product launch if you want to avoid cannibalizing certain SKUs.
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dragging sliders, soldering shunts, modifying bios'... and having deep pockets. tongue.gif
Sense has nothing to do with any of this... especially if you are talking gaming.

When I said sense I meant this:
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Many will weigh 'most expensive' versus 'pretty close on perf. and less needlessly price-jacked'.
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Gross Margins

You're right, the margins would be pretty gross tongue.gif
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