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K4G41325FC-HC28 are rated for up to 7 GHz only whereas every 4GB model states that the memory runs at an effective clock of 8 GHz...

who says it can't be clocked higher? you do realize you're on OCN right?
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lol you're always looking for something ridiculous to squabble over, now it's a potential lawsuit against AMD..............

Just because you find AMD's financial future boring and not relevant doesn't mean those of us that actually have an understanding of how a business is run shouldn't voice concerns when bad decisions are made by a company and its partners. Especially when the company is on the brink of bankruptcy...

Maybe you should take a class or two on business and economics. I hear that discussions become much more enjoyable once you have some understanding of the topics being discussed. biggrin.gif
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who says it can't be clocked higher?

Never said it couldn't be clocked higher. But when was the last time you saw a 15% factory overclock on memory on a reference card? Hell, even factory overclocked cards like the Ligntning, K|NGP|N, and Toxic don't even push memory clocks over a couple percent beyond the manufacturer binned speeds...
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you do realize you're on OCN right?
What does being on OCN have to do with factory specs?
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It could also be argued that the chips were binned and priced according to specific performance thresholds.

I've had a lot of Xeons and the binning differences between them an their consumer parts are often so hit or miss that they may as well be absent. Indeed, I'm not convinced they are binned any differently at all, barring certain low power SKUs, or the need for specific features.
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I would love to see the counterargument by AIBs for providing the same ram at two different price points.

Do they need a counter argument?

If the demand for parts at once price point is satisfied, but they have more such parts, they are going to relabel the remainder as a lower priced part. This is par for the course for essentially all IC manufacturers/sellers and has been forever.
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It is the same hardware in the same box. Changing the bios and adding a sticker on the box doesn't make it two distinct products.
Yes it does. This type of thing is done all the time. Windows Vista and early 7 discs used to come with every version on the disc image. Whatever CD Key you entered determined what features got installed.

Agilent, TekTronix, etc... all sell high end test equipment with multiple versions at different price points. The hardware is the exact same on every version. The only difference is a firmware setting limiting features.

Plus, you don't understand how that law you cited works. It makes it illegal to sell the same product to different retailers at different prices. So it'd be illegal for AMD to sell a 4GB RX480 for $120 to NewEgg and $140 to Microcenter.

The 8GB and 4GB RX480s are two distinct products, even if the bios is the only thing that's different. Just like the only difference between a locked CPU and the more expensive unlocked version is usually just a laser cut resistor somewhere on the package or die.
Edited by AmericanLoco - 7/6/16 at 11:16am
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Just because you find AMD's financial future boring and not relevant doesn't mean those of us that actually have an understanding of how a business is run shouldn't voice concerns when bad decisions are made by a company and its partners. Especially when the company is on the brink of bankruptcy...
Maybe you should take a class or two on business and economics. I hear that discussions become much more enjoyable once you have some understanding of the topics being discussed. biggrin.gif

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When something actually changes regarding their financial situation it will be interesting again.
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Can you convert that physically cut down i3 into an Xeon? Are they identical hardware? Did the AIB just tag on a sticker on the box to differentiate the two products?

Yes. Well, maybe not between an i3 and a Xeon, but Intel does sell different processors that are literally identical and differentiated only with operating software. This includes htings like unlocked multipliers that they charge you extra for between a 4770S and a 4770K. Or extra PCI-e lanes on Broadwell-E that are artificially disabled. Or VTX and VT-D and a ton of other extensions.
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Very cool. I remember back in the day when some 6950's were able to be unlocked into 6970's.

Ah the silicon lottery.
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When will AMD start selling the 4gb version?

The 4gb are already available
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Very cool. I remember back in the day when some 6950's were able to be unlocked into 6970's.

Ah the silicon lottery.

The ATI Radeon 9500 Pro could be turned into a 9700 Pro 13 years ago. http://www.digitaltrends.com/how-to/turn-your-radeon-9500-into-a-9700/
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