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Hey guys, I don't post often but occasionally pop in for advice because I feel like this community has the best knowledge when it comes to hardware and gaming.

GOAL: Play FFXIV in 5760 x 1080 resolution across three 1920x1080 displays.

My current GTX 570's in SLI only have the option to "Span displays" but it does not keep SLI enabled when I do so and my performance drops to 17fps when I change the resolution. When I do enable SLI the game displays only on a single monitor and I only have access to 2 of my 3 monitors but my FPS jumps to 100fps, when SLI is disabled but I'm not spanning accross all monitors I have access to all 3 monitors but the game is only on one monitor and only one GPU is maxed on load and FPS is 50+.

Q: Do newer cards (GTX 970 etc) allow for enabling SLI and spanning across multiple displays all at the same time? Like if I purchased two GTX 970's could I enable SLI and use all three monitors for 5760 x1080?

I've been thinking about purchasing a single GTX 1080 to accomplish my goal but I was curious if the newer cards would allow me to pay a little less money buying two cards in SLI and still play in 5760 x 1080 and actually be able to take advantage of SLI?

Q2: If I cannot buy two video cards then which GTX 1080 card would you guys suggest? I think they're all pretty much equal but I like the Asus Strix and the Gigabyte Extreme Gaming so far from what I've seen. Curious to see what the information will be like for EVGA classified.
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Hey guys, I don't post often but occasionally pop in for advice because I feel like this community has the best knowledge when it comes to hardware and gaming.

GOAL: Play FFXIV in 5760 x 1080 resolution across three 1920x1080 displays.

My current GTX 570's in SLI only have the option to "Span displays" but it does not keep SLI enabled when I do so and my performance drops to 17fps when I change the resolution. When I do enable SLI the game displays only on a single monitor and I only have access to 2 of my 3 monitors but my FPS jumps to 100fps, when SLI is disabled but I'm not spanning accross all monitors I have access to all 3 monitors but the game is only on one monitor and only one GPU is maxed on load and FPS is 50+.

Q: Do newer cards (GTX 970 etc) allow for enabling SLI and spanning across multiple displays all at the same time? Like if I purchased two GTX 970's could I enable SLI and use all three monitors for 5760 x1080?

I've been thinking about purchasing a single GTX 1080 to accomplish my goal but I was curious if the newer cards would allow me to pay a little less money buying two cards in SLI and still play in 5760 x 1080 and actually be able to take advantage of SLI?

Q2: If I cannot buy two video cards then which GTX 1080 card would you guys suggest? I think they're all pretty much equal but I like the Asus Strix and the Gigabyte Extreme Gaming so far from what I've seen. Curious to see what the information will be like for EVGA classified.

You should have an option "Nvidia Surround" - it might require some swapping displays to an other card though.
   
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I'v been using surround / eyefinity for years now, but I haven't played FFXIV. I watched this in surround on my three screens through youtube and it appears like it would be fine. LINK

I used single GTX 970 in surround for nearly two years and most things ran on high with MSAA lowered / off. Things barely used over 3GB of Vram so it wasn't really an issue, it was just GPU performance bound. Now I have a single GTX 1080 and can run games on Ultra with MSAA. Still never used over 3.3GB of Vram yet, but the performance has nearly doubled in everything.

I imagine best case scenario, you get about 80% of the performance a GTX 1080 has to offer with 970 SLI. That's only if the game you are playing has good SLI support, and it doesn't hit the 3.5GB vram wall. Both of those things are a real possibility of going wrong so I don't recommend going with it.

I would suggest going with one of the following options.
  • Used single GTX 970 if your on a budget and will be fine with adjusting settings for 60FPS.
  • Custom cooled GTX 1070 if you cannot afford a GTX 1080.
  • Best option would be to get any custom cooled GTX 1080.


The cooling and overclocking on the 1070 /1080 are all pretty similar so just get whichever one you like. Just make sure the GPU you buy has 3x displayports. The Asus GTX 1080 only has two. Mixing monitor output types really sucks and it's better to keep them all on displayport even if you need an adapter. If you don't already have the monitors, make sure you buy some with displayport.
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Thank for the response guys. I'm going to play around with it some more but I think it might be a VRAM issue. My 570s only have 1200MB of VRAM so I'm probably hitting that wall.

As for the Asus card that is sad news. All three of my monitors only have VGA, DVI, HDMI inputs. No display port for any of them. I have DVI to Display adapters I can get for free from work but I like the Asus model more than the other ones so far. The Gigabyte may be the one I go with then if I go for the 1080 since it has the rear and front panel options for multiple hdmi connectors.
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Thank for the response guys. I'm going to play around with it some more but I think it might be a VRAM issue. My 570s only have 1200MB of VRAM so I'm probably hitting that wall.

As for the Asus card that is sad news. All three of my monitors only have VGA, DVI, HDMI inputs. No display port for any of them. I have DVI to Display adapters I can get for free from work but I like the Asus model more than the other ones so far. The Gigabyte may be the one I go with then if I go for the 1080 since it has the rear and front panel options for multiple hdmi connectors.

Well, I used to run a triple 1080p back in the HD6950 days. Currently running a 3440x1440 curved 21:9 and haven't been looking back ever since. That's also an upgrade you might want to consider.

As for graphics cards. Look into a single RX 480 8GB? And wait for the big pascal/vega if you really find it to be lacking performance?


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As for mixing display outputs: doesn't really matter as long as you don't mix analoge (VGA) and digital (DP, DVI, HMDI). I seen many multi-display setups that run of mixed HDMI, DVI and even DP without any issues in latency, picture quality etc. Just stay away from VGA.
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That doesn't seem right. "Span displays with surround" option should always keep SLI enabled. You have these options?

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I played FFXIV back in Alpha, beta, before RR and a little bit after RR.
I was able to play triple 1080p monitors:





In person I didn't play it as it's shown, and the colours weren't off as shown.
I was able to play both portrait and landscape mode with 30 frames on a single 780 @ medium settings, 80% GPU load
**I played on my Integrated graphics on my 3570k on 1920x1080 mediums settings at 25-30 fps when I had too as well**
Shows how well the game ^was^ optimized, not sure how much it is now.

I would suggest looking at a used 980ti ~325-350$ for 60 frames @ 1080p surround
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That doesn't seem right. "Span displays with surround" option should always keep SLI enabled. You have these options?


Yep those are the settings I have. I just tested it again last night and it looks like SLI is still enabled when I span across the displays. I guess the VRAM is a huge issue when you jump up the resolution that high. I ran Void Ark (24man raid) at 5760x1080 (High Laptop Preset) settings and was dropping down to 4-5 fps (unplayable). Switched to 1920x1080 and jumped up to 100 fps on the same settings.

@Xioros I might look into that. I have been interested in the 21:9 monitors for a long time and getting just one of those might be the better alternative.
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That doesn't seem right. "Span displays with surround" option should always keep SLI enabled. You have these options?


Yep those are the settings I have. I just tested it again last night and it looks like SLI is still enabled when I span across the displays. I guess the VRAM is a huge issue when you jump up the resolution that high. I ran Void Ark (24man raid) at 5760x1080 (High Laptop Preset) settings and was dropping down to 4-5 fps (unplayable). Switched to 1920x1080 and jumped up to 100 fps on the same settings.

@Xioros I might look into that. I have been interested in the 21:9 monitors for a long time and getting just one of those might be the better alternative.

Can you include a screenshot of your Nvidia settings?

Definitely do so. The total pixel count is more or less the same (80% of triple 1080p), but it's far more workable with far less problems.
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Do note that this kind of resolution (also applies to triple 1080p) requires a ton of GPU power for good framerates. You'd be looking at GTX 1070 or above in terms of performance. And because Nvidia currently only offers overpriced, glorified mid-range GPU's, I'm crossing my fingers that AMD Vega turns out to be more or less decent. If you're financially capable of buying a $700 GPU every year and really don't want to wait/force a fair price from Nvidia, I'd say go for the GTX 1080, paired with a 34" 3440x1440 display. Oh, and don't get fooled by the 2560x1080 displays. Not worth the price IMO. Go high-res or don't go 21:9.
   
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Can you include a screenshot of your Nvidia settings?

Definitely do so. The total pixel count is more or less the same (80% of triple 1080p), but it's far more workable with far less problems.
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Do note that this kind of resolution (also applies to triple 1080p) requires a ton of GPU power for good framerates. You'd be looking at GTX 1070 or above in terms of performance. And because Nvidia currently only offers overpriced, glorified mid-range GPU's, I'm crossing my fingers that AMD Vega turns out to be more or less decent. If you're financially capable of buying a $700 GPU every year and really don't want to wait/force a fair price from Nvidia, I'd say go for the GTX 1080, paired with a 34" 3440x1440 display. Oh, and don't get fooled by the 2560x1080 displays. Not worth the price IMO. Go high-res or don't go 21:9.

Thanks. As far a budget goes I pretty much have to choose one or the other. I can either upgrade my video card to a GTX 1080 or I can get a 21:9 monitor. (Actually really like the LG curved model). I can't do both right now though. I'm afraid if I get the monitor I'll hit the same bottleneck with my two 570's in SLI that the VRAM will shut me out of enjoying the 1440p experience.

EDIT: How does watching Movies (netflix etc) / Blue-Rays end up with the 1440p since it's not 4k resolution and it's not 1080p either?
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