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I'm trying to find the best rout to make a 3d model of an ASRock X99 OC Formula? I want to design a water block for it.
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You can download a Sketch Up drawing of an ASRock X99M Fatal1ty Killer. The layout is the same as the X99 OC Formula. You can get the mounting and clearance specs for the CPU cooler from Intel.

What is it that you want to cool? Just the CPU? VRMs?

Designing a water block isn't a one off proposition. There would be prototyping and testing too.

Is there some particular design feature you want to incorporate that isn't available in a commercial block?
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Originally Posted by billbartuska View Post

You can download a Sketch Up drawing of an ASRock X99M Fatal1ty Killer. The layout is the same as the X99 OC Formula. You can get the mounting and clearance specs for the CPU cooler from Intel.

What is it that you want to cool? Just the CPU? VRMs?

Designing a water block isn't a one off proposition. There would be prototyping and testing too.

Is there some particular design feature you want to incorporate that isn't available in a commercial block?


Its for both aesthetic and cooling purposes.

I am doing a personal experiment... I'm trying to see how far I can overclock everything without using liquid nitrogen. I had a few ideas that I believe haven't been implemented by anyone yet and therefore I want to pursue and document them. I've already had some custom parts made to further better the cooling, as well as preventing galvanic corrosion. I am as of now, wanting a water block to to cool the VRMs as well as the MOSFET chip.

There are no commercial blocks that cool the mosfet, except for the Bitspower Thor, and it only has a plate.




Trying to figure out how to this as I've never even tried before.
post #4 of 14
Well, if you don't have the tools to make a block(s) the you first should find someone to do the work (machine shop?)

Ask them what they will need:
You buy the parts (copper, plastic,o-rings, screws bolts, whatever) or they do - it will most likely be cheaper if you do it, but more work for you.
The shop will tell you whether they just need a hand written sketch with some dimensions on up to a full, CAD, dimensioned drawings, or maybe just the CAD file. Since this will be a "one off" proposition (maybe "three off?) CNC won't be beneficial cost wise (just a guess).

You're going to pay a "set up fee", usually $25-$200, so if the first block costs $100, setup, and $50, machine time, the second one will only cost $50 (or something like that). So get the prices and plan accordingly. Having two each of three variations made may be cheaper that going back and paying the set fee up three times.

You might want to ask them about lapping to save yourself a lot of time and effort. They may be able to lap the CPU itself too. It's about $10-$25 per part (again some setup time too).

Again, it would be wise to use someone with experience machining copper - it's a lot like trying to cut a warm stick of butter in half with a baseball bat!

Here's one "high tech" way it's done., which, I would guess, is way over your budget.
 
 
 
Edited by billbartuska - 7/6/16 at 6:03am
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I've contacted companies like Aquacomputer, koolance, and EnzoTech, and they are wanting like 20,000 dollars for like 200+ items made.

Now I've been looking further into things and I've found various sites that will mill/machine a prototype so long as you have an STL, CAD, etc. file for them to go off of.

Here are just a few that I found that offer quotes for a prototype.

https://www.xometry.com/
http://www.sequoia-brass-copper.com/
https://www.protolabs.com/


Now I have a 3D printer and I use it often, and I'm not bad at making 3D designs. I'd say I'm above average, and I know the trial and error process when it comes to making custom parts for another product. I was just hoping there was a faster way other than using a ruler and trial and error process because it takes a long time and a 3D scanner accurate enough to scan a MB are freakishly expensive.

There is one place I know that does this and it is http://www.liquidextasy.de/ located in Germany. And they require you to send your motherboard in order for them to get the measurements and come up with a design. The problem there is the shipping, its expensive, it will cost more than the water block itself, so its just not worth it to jump right into that option straight away.

Finding alternatives is hard!
Edited by Skabelund - 7/6/16 at 7:14am
post #6 of 14
You're over thinking this. All you need is a guy that can read a blueprint and has a milling machine.

Look for a small, local machine shop. Go visit them and tell them what you want - keep it simple! If they can do it they'll tell you what they need and quote a price, if not, they probably know of someone local that will.

Like I said, Intel (and AMD) publish "Clearance Specifications" to which all motherboard manufacturers have to comply. ie every motherboard sold anywhere in the world by any manufacturer will meet those specs. Every Intel motherboard is exactly the same as every other Intel motherboard. AMD motherboards are all exactly the same too. Then, whether it's air, water, or whatever type of cooling that a cooler manufacturer produces it has to fit in that space - and so does yours.
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post #7 of 14
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So basically all I need to do is request the blueprints from ASrock?


That makes things a lot easier. I would have done a whole lot of extra work for nothing.


Thanks
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"2 days, 6 hours ago" - Been out of town.....

I doubt Asrock will be any help.
It's Intel/AMD websites you need.
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Well I found a local shop that is pretty confident that they can do it. They just need a blueprint. I'll try and see if intel can get me it.
post #10 of 14
Oh boy.............Close only counts in horseshoes and hand grenades i guess.

You need the specs for how much clearance Intel/AMD require around and above their CPUs.

For example, here are the ATX technical specification: See the section on ATX Motherboard Maximum Component Height Restrictions

Both Intel and AMD publish similar information in their technical specifications. That's what you need...............From those you can determine if your new component will interfere with any of the standard motherboard components.
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