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[Sapphire/WCCF] Sapphire adds Radeon 490 to Support Ticket Product Selection / 490 is dual-GPU

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Source: http://www.sapphiretech.com/support.asp?lang=eng

Here in the Support Ticket Product Selection you can see Sapphire added a whole bunch of Polaris SKUs, but most importantly we see a Radeon 490 listed. Which must mean that it will be launching sooner than we might have expected. A while back I posted a news article about the 980 Ti being added to the Corsair PSU Finder, around that time most people believed that either there wasn't going to be a 980 Ti at all or it wasn't going to come out for quite a while, and surely a little while after the PSU Finder discovery the card finally came out.

We know that the 490 will exist based on these charts, where AMD explains the Polaris nomenclature:

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So is it possible that the rumors about Vega being launched earlier than expected are true?

It seems WCCFTech found another instance where the 490 was leaked on accident by AMD:
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AMD uses a predictable nomenclature while naming its test boards. All of these boards start with the letter C (which probably stands for consumer) followed by five numbers. The first digit after C almost certainly denotes the generation of the graphic card. The second digit apparently represents the relative rank of the chip in the same lineup. The numbers that follow are much harder to guess at externally and can depict any specification whatsoever. Since the numbering follows a very obvious trend however, its not that hard to figure out how AMD builds the lineup. Before we go any further, take a look below.

Hawaii boards for were named C6XXXX, Tonga boards C7XXXX and Fiji boards C8XXXX.

By the same logic, Polaris boards should have the C9XXXX nomenclature, and this is something we have already seen before.



That only leaves the C99 variant not accounted for. Here is where things get really interesting. The C99 variant is roughly double the value of the last GPU: the C94 (aka Pol 10) variant. INR does not correspond directly to MSRP, but usually has a high correlation with the GPU’s performance or features. In this case, it would seem that the C99 test board was at least two times as valuable as a C94 test board. Here is another fact. The INR value of the test board is roughly about the same (INR 125350) as the Gemini test board (Radeon Pro Duo). Finally the nomenclature C99 indicates that the GPU is of the Polaris family (remember, the first number after the letter C represents the architectural generation.) but roughly twice the power of the RX 480.

All of these things indicate to us that we are looking at a dual GPU solution, probably one based on a full version of Polaris 10.

Source 2: http://wccftech.com/amd-rx-490-dual-gpu/
Edited by BiG StroOnZ - 7/7/16 at 8:58pm
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Inb4 vega based off polaris performance will be slower than nvidia 1060.
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Pretty sure this is just a typo.

All the versions of the cards are listed, but they don't have a listing for the 8GB model of the 480. Then, you look at the listing for the "490" and you see 8GB of plain old GDDR5, which I just can't see them using on Vega. I'm pretty sure we've already had slides from AMD confirming Vega will use HBM2.
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Yeah.


Not Vega.
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Pretty sure this is just a typo.

All the versions of the cards are listed, but they don't have a listing for the 8GB model of the 480. Then, you look at the listing for the "490" and you see 8GB of plain old GDDR5, which I just can't see them using on Vega. I'm pretty sure we've already had slides from AMD confirming Vega will use HBM2.

Read the nomenclature detailed charts. The 490 is going to be 256-bit bus. I know it is hard to read on the AMD slide, but there are numbers in red listed with the highest being "9" for 4K.
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Way too soon. There hasn't been much leaks or news about Vega.
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Pretty sure this is just a typo.

All the versions of the cards are listed, but they don't have a listing for the 8GB model of the 480. Then, you look at the listing for the "490" and you see 8GB of plain old GDDR5, which I just can't see them using on Vega. I'm pretty sure we've already had slides from AMD confirming Vega will use HBM2.

Trusting slides from either side these days is pretty darn questionable.
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Read the nomenclature detailed charts. The 490 is going to be 256-bit bus. I know it is hard to read on the AMD slide, but there are numbers in red listed with the highest being "9" for 4K.

It says ">256bit"
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Read the nomenclature detailed charts. The 490 is going to be 256-bit bus. I know it is hard to read on the AMD slide, but there are numbers in red listed with the highest being "9" for 4K.
It's ">256-bit"

I sincerely doubt Vega will have a 256-bit bus. AMD has already confirmed it will be an HMB2 chip. If Vega is going to be redesigned, at this point, to be a GDDR5 chip.. It's not Vega. The 490 could be something entirely else, I guess, but it's definitely not the Vega any of us were promised.
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Yeah.


Not Vega.

If it's not Vega or Polaris, then what is the 490 exactly?
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It says ">256bit"

Okay so greater than 256-bit but probably not the sizes we see with HBM though because over 256-bit is sort of cryptic.
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