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Yeah I saw that. So as you said, the Saphire page is likely just a typo, but the 490 is a thing, and what it is nobody really knows at this point.

Assuming the Sapphire page IS a typo. I wouldn't rule out the possibility that 490 is Vega. Maybe the "smaller" Vega if you believe there'll be two SKUs.

Here's the thing though, whether or not the Sapphire code directly correlates to 480 8GB. The problem here is not only did the person who make the typo forget to put in the RX before hand. They also seemingly replaced the 8 with a 9. While to most this seems likely because of how close they are on a keyboard. I used to do data entry for a large company that sold computer products, and most of the time when inputting this data to go onto our website. It was reviewed multiple times by our boss before it went live. Not only this, many times before hand the majority of the information was already typed out. Very rarely were we actually typing product names and codes by hand individually. Most of the time they were copied and pasted. So it seems quite odd that every single listing from Sapphire was perfect, except the last one which suddenly is missing the RX and of course is instead a 490. Makes me feel like it was done purposefully almost. Or at the very least a Freudian slip that was overlooked

Regardless of my personal experience, if the 490 is Vega, it would appear based on the chart where they explained how the Polaris lineup will look. That the 490 will not have HBM, because all it says is greater than 256-bit, which is not even close to where a bus width is with HBM. So it would have to be a different product than what AMD suggests on their Roadmap. Although the Roadmap does say "subject to change." It would seem like this 490 doesn't have HBM. Which either means it's not Vega, or "subject to change."
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Are all those real cards? There are a lot of 4 series cards on there - R7 435 and a R5 435 both?

Surprisingly the chart you are looking at has been since updated and all the leaked cards have been since removed. This chart was discovered about a week ago. So AMD has had some time to clean up their tracks.
Edited by BiG StroOnZ - 7/7/16 at 8:57pm
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Well if you are assuming that being on that picture means the card is going to be released this year, there are a lot of 4 series cards on that list that don't currently exist. Which makes me doubt the veracity of the whole thing. Are we going to see 10 new 4 series cards in the next 6 months? Personally, I doubt it.
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Well if you are assuming that being on that picture means the card is going to be released this year, there are a lot of 4 series cards on that list that don't currently exist. Which makes me doubt the veracity of the whole thing. Are we going to see 10 new 4 series cards in the next 6 months? Personally, I doubt it.

Veracity wise you could go to this link a week ago: https://www.amd4u.com/amdgamepromo/

Click Eligibility, and all those cards in the pic would have been present:

https://m.reddit.com/r/pcmasterrace/comments/4qeqb5/full_amd_400_series_lineup_revealed_rx490/

However since then, AMD has removed the majority of those cards including the RX 480 which is out now. Based on the date, February 15, 2016 - December 31, 2016. We would have to assume that AMD is planning on launching the following:

Desktop Cards:

AMD Radeon RX 490
AMD Radeon RX 480
AMD Radeon RX 470
AMD Radeon RX 460
AMD Radeon R7 455
AMD Radeon R7 450
AMD Radeon R7 440
AMD Radeon R7 435
AMD Radeon R7 430
AMD Radeon R5 435
AMD Radeon R5 430
AMD Radeon R5 420

Mobile Variants:

AMD Radeon R9 M485X
AMD Radeon R9 M470X
AMD Radeon R9 M470
AMD Radeon R7 M465X
AMD Radeon R7 M465
AMD Radeon R7 M460
AMD Radeon R7 M445
AMD Radeon R7 M440
AMD Radeon R5 M435
AMD Radeon R5 M430
AMD Radeon R5 M420
post #54 of 104
Between now and Dec 31, 2016. So in less than 6 months they are going to release almost 20 cards? That seems highly unlikely, so using the fact that there was a 490 on that chart to mean there is one coming out doesn't seem like a smoking gun to me.

In case I'm not being clear, I don't doubt that the picture existed, I doubt that it means anything.
Edited by Forceman - 7/7/16 at 9:24pm
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Between now and Dec 31, 2016. So in less than 6 months they are going to release almost 20 cards? That seems highly unlikely, so using the fact that there was a 490 on that chart to mean there is one coming out doesn't seem like a smoking gun to me.

I don't doubt that the picture existed, I doubt that it means anything.

Well, in 6 months they are going to release four main cards as they are the only ones with an RX prefix. The rest are either mobile, OEM, or low end cards (not really hard to release a bunch of cut down low end SKUs or rebrands in 6 months):

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Edited by BiG StroOnZ - 7/7/16 at 9:42pm
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It would be smart to push a dual P10 card, as long as the price is right. If it comes this early, that type of card could end up being the hugely popular for this generation. Widespread adoption would create demand for much more multi-GPU support from developers and also from driver teams. We also have Microsoft working hard to make multiple GPU support easier and better.

This is a great time for a lower mid-range dual GPU if it's aimed at real price:performance competition. The last few generations, they've only been a late in the game premium option for Micro ATX builds. Sending one down the pipeline at this point in time, with a small die.. that sounds like it's intended to compete.

A premium cooler and a bit more power might be possible if a dual card can be priced equally to Crossfired single cards. The niche pricing of these could get curbed by high volume sales to the point where a premium cooler and better power phase would be a freebie for those grabbing a "490".

Who knows. This makes far more sense than the "big polaris" people have been speculating about.
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It would be smart to push a dual P10 card, as long as the price is right. If it comes this early, that type of card could end up being the hugely popular for this generation. Widespread adoption would create demand for much more multi-GPU support from developers and also from driver teams. We also have Microsoft working hard to make multiple GPU support easier and better.

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A premium cooler and a bit more power might be possible if a dual card can be priced equally to Crossfired single cards. The niche pricing of these could get curbed by high volume sales to the point where a premium cooler and better power phase would be a freebie for those grabbing a "490".

Who knows. This makes far more sense than the "big polaris" people have been speculating about.

If this is what the 490 turns out to be, I would definitely be interested in this card. I said in another thread give me dual 480's on one PCB watercooled like a 295x2.

It's not like AMD hasn't used "90" before to denote a dual-GPU card:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814202036

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102927
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If this is what the 490 turns out to be, I would definitely be interested in this card. I said in another thread give me dual 480's on one PCB watercooled like a 295x2.

It's not like AMD hasn't used "90" before to denote a dual-GPU card:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814202036

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102927

When Gemini finally showed up it was too expensive and still sported HDMI 1.4. On top of that, it wasn't faster in its price bracket and was beaten by 980Tis in SLI.

A dual-Polaris could be what I wanted Gemini to be-- a ~$500 dual-GPU card that boxes in its own weight class. I'm not overly impressed with AMD so far this round, but I like the idea of a dually to tide me over until Vega or 1080Ti.
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When Gemini finally showed up it was too expensive and still sported HDMI 1.4. On top of that, it wasn't faster in its price bracket and was beaten by 980Tis in SLI.

A dual-Polaris could be what I wanted Gemini to be-- a ~$500 dual-GPU card that boxes in its own weight class. I'm not overly impressed with AMD so far this round, but I like the idea of a dually to tide me over until Vega or 1080Ti.

At $500 it's basically giving you 1080 performance stock, it would be a winner amongst gamers.

http://www.tweaktown.com/articles/7770/amd-radeon-rx-480-crossfire-beating-geforce-gtx-1080-4k/index6.html

Would be great for that Monitor upgrade I have been planning to do, Freesync monitors are so much cheaper compared to G-Sync. I think a 490 (as dual 480's) + Freesync Monitor would be the way to go.
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At $500 it's basically giving you 1080 performance stock, it would be a winner amongst gamers.

http://www.tweaktown.com/articles/7770/amd-radeon-rx-480-crossfire-beating-geforce-gtx-1080-4k/index6.html

Would be great for that Monitor upgrade I have been planning to do, Freesync monitors are so much cheaper compared to G-Sync. I think a 490 (as dual 480's) + Freesync Monitor would be the way to go.


But so many games are not optimized for Crossfire, and for the new games you need to wait for crossfire a few months to play them...
Gtx 1070/1080 is way better than crossfire 480.

RX 480 is a very good 1080p card but not for Crossfire at this moment. Better buy GTX 1070 if you wanna more power.
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