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But so many games are not optimized for Crossfire, and for the new games you need to wait for cross a few months to play them...
Gtx 1070/1080 is way better than crossfire 480.

You think if AMD is releasing a dual-GPU card, they aren't going to push for optimization with Crossfire? Further improving their drivers for other cards as well? It is their ticket to the competitive market with the 1070 and 1080. While in the past Crossfire has had serious issues with support, if the 490 is the flagship product and is a dual-GPU card. Pushing for better driver optimization and Crossfire support will be a part of their plan. And then of course there is DX12, where AMD has the advantage at the moment: http://www.winbuzzer.com/2016/07/05/microsoft-simplifies-multi-gpu-support-directx-12-developers-xcxwbn/

People have been talking about Crossfire issues for a while now, it's nothing new. AMD needs to get around to addressing it. SLI seems to be a lot more reliable, even though Crossfire scales better. So you have to assume, that it is on AMD's to do list to make Crossfire a lot better. If that is a direct product of the 490 being a dual-GPU card then so be it. But if the 490 is a dual-GPU card they are going to have to improve Crossfire support, or experience the wrath of the internet.
Edited by BiG StroOnZ - 7/8/16 at 2:29am
post #62 of 104
huge failboat if true, just like all previous double-GPU cards (from both camps)

it will still stutter and lack support in some games and it will still lose to 1080 when all games are taken into account (see TPU chart)


oh well at least there is Vega still




P.S. I am hearing this song of "multi-GPU will get better, dont worry" for many years now

and even if they make some progress - thats only for future games ? what about all past/present ones ?
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It isn't true, I don't get how they can be so incompetent despite things laid out for them so clearly. From the shipping manifests,

C882 - Fiji nano
C888 - Fiji x2 (Gemini)
C880 - Fiji XT

So the second digit stands for the chip while third gives you the config.

But somehow the author thinks that C98x is the same chip as C99x(C993) and to make it even more wrong, calls C98x as Polaris 10 as Baffin despite AMD themselves have made it clear that Baffin is Polaris 11.

The new chip was seen earlier in march and there is this recent shipment.

    
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Well I am puzzled. There is definitely an RX 490 coming before the end of the year, it is gonna be faster than polaris 10 but we do not know what it is. At this point I just think it is Vega and Sapphire is just misreporting its actual memory config.
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impossible. AMD officially stated that P10 is full fat. The full configuration.

It can be P9 then, they mentioned a "12" as well back in may. P10 is a 256bit chip is all.
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You think if AMD is releasing a dual-GPU card, they aren't going to push for optimization with Crossfire? Further improving their drivers for other cards as well? It is their ticket to the competitive market with the 1070 and 1080. While in the past Crossfire has had serious issues with support, if the 490 is the flagship product and is a dual-GPU card. Pushing for better driver optimization and Crossfire support will be a part of their plan. And then of course there is DX12, where AMD has the advantage at the moment: http://www.winbuzzer.com/2016/07/05/microsoft-simplifies-multi-gpu-support-directx-12-developers-xcxwbn/

People have been talking about Crossfire issues for a while now, it's nothing new. AMD needs to get around to addressing it. SLI seems to be a lot more reliable, even though Crossfire scales better. So you have to assume, that it is on AMD's to do list to make Crossfire a lot better. If that is a direct product of the 490 being a dual-GPU card then so be it. But if the 490 is a dual-GPU card they are going to have to improve Crossfire support, or experience the wrath of the internet.


It is possible to make a dual-gpu card that doesn't use crossfire now that shaders are in banks.
post #67 of 104
guys guys guys guys



What if the "RX" Radeon Xpress implies that the chips are all PCI-Express versions of mobility chips?
post #68 of 104
I know what RX 490 is:

Dual RX 480
2x4GB

Makes perfect sense since Vega isnt out until 2017 and RX 480 is the full Polaris 10.
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Why would they only use 4gb GPU's?

That makes zero sense
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Why would they only use 4gb GPU's?

That makes zero sense

To reduce cost for manufacturing.
To reduce cost for customer
To reduce PCB space and card size
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