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Forget Vega! I'm waiting for Navi.
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post #82 of 104
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Forget Vega! I'm waiting for Navi.
Vega 10 would be a true upgrade for a R9 290x and it would be released sooner
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Vega 10 is the bigger die as Polaris 10 is the bigger die

The numbers only indicate the order in which they were designed, Vega 10 is smaller than Vega 11 and should launch first. Raja of RTG addressed this at least twice.
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If 490 is only dual Polaris 10, looks like my fear is true, Nvidia took AMD by surprise by their high clocked Pascal. Even the GPU efficiency proved that.
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post #85 of 104
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To reduce cost for manufacturing.
To reduce cost for customer
To reduce PCB space and card size

4gb would only reduce cost to buy the chips, not space used or cost to manufacture.
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The numbers only indicate the order in which they were designed, Vega 10 is smaller than Vega 11 and should launch first. Raja of RTG addressed this at least twice.

He's also said that Polaris 10 was done after Polaris 11 was already locked, so who do you believe, Raja or Raja? thumb.gif I can't really find the exact quotes that lead to people thinking P10 was designed before P11, but it might be just a misinterpretation of what Koduri said. He's pretty clear on that Polaris was first and foremost designed for mobile, which leads me to believe GloFo process is probably best suited for the low power mobile versions.

https://youtu.be/24rFeHo1S-o?t=1030

I think what Raja was alluding to in the PCPer interview is that he doesn't consider the RX 480 particularly optimal, and his design goals for Polaris were elsewhere. This would at least give some hope that RX 480 isn't the best RTG can come up for desktop gamers.

Just based on rumors it sounds to me more like RTG is trying their best to get an HBM2 card out there, but realistically it won't be before next year, so it leaves a huge gap in their lineup. Perhaps there is a GDDR5X card somewhere in there. I don't like the idea of a dual P10 card unless they've done some miracles to avoid CF issues, an idea I find far-fetched at best. Of course it's AMD we're talking about, and Raja showing off RX 480 CF results, and these rumors makes me nervous that they might actually launch another terrible CF card and think it's going to compete with Nvidia's high end before they get Vega out the door. Optimally I'd hope that Vega 11 is a smaller GDDR5X card that would be out in October to compete with GP104, and Vega 10 later with GP102. I just don't really want to engage in wishful thinking too much after what they've shown after the 290X launch. In all likelihood they could release a Vega 10 next spring and it would only compete with GP104 at best, while being too expensive due to HBM2 to compete on price. That would be the pessimistic guess.
Edited by Pantsu - 7/8/16 at 10:56pm
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You think if AMD is releasing a dual-GPU card, they aren't going to push for optimization with Crossfire?

AMD has released several dual-gpu cards, and crossfire still seems to be a profile-per-game prospect and kinda dependent on the developer of the game as well.

The good news is, dx12 games and vulkan titles are going to start releasing, so there should be much less workload for getting crossfire (and sli for that matter) to work across titles.

I would snag a cheap dual-gpu card though to play around with it, despite it will be a mixed bag performance prospect like every cf/sli setup.

To be realistic though, by the time DX12/Vulkan become the de facto standards, we will be a couple more hardware generations from where we are now.

It's definitely exciting though and will be an interesting card if it's price right below 500usd.
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AMD has released several dual-gpu cards, and crossfire still seems to be a profile-per-game prospect and kinda dependent on the developer of the game as well.

The good news is, dx12 games and vulkan titles are going to start releasing, so there should be much less workload for getting crossfire (and sli for that matter) to work across titles.

I would snag a cheap dual-gpu card though to play around with it, despite it will be a mixed bag performance prospect like every cf/sli setup.

To be realistic though, by the time DX12/Vulkan become the de facto standards, we will be a couple more hardware generations from where we are now.

It's definitely exciting though and will be an interesting card if it's price right below 500usd.

You are bonkers to think they would price a dual GPU flagship card at anywhere near $500.
    
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You are bonkers to think they would price a dual GPU flagship card at anywhere near $500.

It can't be much more than $500, otherwise it would make no sense at all to buy this card for anyone.

Well that is if its a dual GPU card at all, which I'm still not entirely convinced about.
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I dont think its dual gpu card, probably have 2800sp on single gpu
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