Originally Posted by Vesku
The numbers only indicate the order in which they were designed, Vega 10 is smaller than Vega 11 and should launch first. Raja of RTG addressed this at least twice.
He's also said that Polaris 10 was done after Polaris 11 was already locked, so who do you believe, Raja or Raja?
I can't really find the exact quotes that lead to people thinking P10 was designed before P11, but it might be just a misinterpretation of what Koduri said. He's pretty clear on that Polaris was first and foremost designed for mobile, which leads me to believe GloFo process is probably best suited for the low power mobile versions.
I think what Raja was alluding to in the PCPer interview is that he doesn't consider the RX 480 particularly optimal, and his design goals for Polaris were elsewhere. This would at least give some hope that RX 480 isn't the best RTG can come up for desktop gamers.
Just based on rumors it sounds to me more like RTG is trying their best to get an HBM2 card out there, but realistically it won't be before next year, so it leaves a huge gap in their lineup. Perhaps there is a GDDR5X card somewhere in there. I don't like the idea of a dual P10 card unless they've done some miracles to avoid CF issues, an idea I find far-fetched at best. Of course it's AMD we're talking about, and Raja showing off RX 480 CF results, and these rumors makes me nervous that they might actually launch another terrible CF card and think it's going to compete with Nvidia's high end before they get Vega out the door. Optimally I'd hope that Vega 11 is a smaller GDDR5X card that would be out in October to compete with GP104, and Vega 10 later with GP102. I just don't really want to engage in wishful thinking too much after what they've shown after the 290X launch. In all likelihood they could release a Vega 10 next spring and it would only compete with GP104 at best, while being too expensive due to HBM2 to compete on price. That would be the pessimistic guess.Edited by Pantsu - 7/8/16 at 10:56pm