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Where did you get that mobo and cpu for $15 bucks!?!? I would be on that in a heart beat. I thought I was going for a good deal on this mobo and 8320e for about $125

Thanks everyone for the responses btw. I guess I'll see what else MicroCenter has to offer at a good price. But I'll probably go for this and stick to low 4ghz OC or maybe 4 flat
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If you read Newegg reviews, this motherboard has VRM reliability issues. A forum member also had this motherboard at 4.7-4.8Ghz, i think and eventually it fried and killed the CPU too. Not saying that will happen, but VRM longevity isn't its strong suit.

Personally, i 'd keep it at 4.4Ghz and be happy. Asrock motherboards tend to run hotter than ASUS or Gigabytes, partly because of cheaper VRM and because of less copper inside the motherboard PCB (which increases heat. See what Gigabyte calls "x2 copper layer in the UltraDurable series). Some Asrocks are also thinner than the competition, exacerbating this and it's why you see more premature deaths compared to others.

The best 970 AM3+ motherboard is ASUS 970 Pro Gaming AURA. Normally it heats 4.5Ghz. With added cooling a member brought it to 5Ghz, as i remember and the only consistent complaint in newegg reviews , is that the colour of the light resets to default at reboot. Otherwise, it's very good motherboard.

An 8320E should be able to hit 4.5Ghz without much effort. Past that, it depends.

After looking into it abit I may go with that Asus mobo. Theres an open box deal I may be able to get 30 percent off and a MIR to get it at a damn good price. And if not then I can get it for like 70 bucks after rebates. 45 more than the asrock but more long term reliability and a bit higher oc thats safer/more stable. Should be worth it in the long run
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True, but anything over 4.2ghz will have heating problems with asrock mobo with fx-8****.

For what you paid, it's great as it is. Although i have to say i am a bit surprised that it heats so early. On the Asrock 970 Extreme3, which is 4+1, i was getting 62C with 8320@4Ghz. Yours, even if with a doubler, has double the phases, so i would expect it to go to 4.4Ghz at least (with decent temperatures). Anyway, maybe Asrock messed up the design of the motherboard leading to even more heat concentration.

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After looking into it abit I may go with that Asus mobo. Theres an open box deal I may be able to get 30 percent off and a MIR to get it at a damn good price. And if not then I can get it for like 70 bucks after rebates. 45 more than the asrock but more long term reliability and a bit higher oc thats safer/more stable. Should be worth it in the long run

I think that if you manage to get the ASUS, you will be doing yourself a big favour. It's great looking and great overclocker for the money too.
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AM3+ in mid 2016? Not the bestest of ideas.
 
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Depends on your budget and needs. Id wadger to say if you needed a gaming capable system now because you have nothing and dont want to wait till god knows when Zen will actaully arrive (or if it will even be good value for thr $) ,you couldnt do better on a tight budget than FX 8 series. Esspecially if it was just a stop gap you could then pass on to someone else (like a child) in a year or two and build a Zen if it turns out to be good. There are regualarly FX 8 series chips comboed with high/mid grade motherboards going for less than $200 as we speak.

I have always felt there is some merit in buying the top of the line stuff at the end of its life cycle for 2 reasons. #1 prices will likely never be lower on the parts in question...and #2 while newer system technology will have a performance gain in most cases, the gains versus the price premiuem are rarely very favorable, and software will almost always take years to catch up in truely taking advantage of said performace to the point it oushes out older tech. In the case of AMD, thier stuff temds to age well as it is and i see FX continuing that trend.

Just the ramblings of a long time budget minded techy though. To each their own.
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That is all true. Nothing beats FX for bang for the buck. It's not even close. The price difference is quite large and when the FX is OCed it becomes even a better deal. http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=AMD+FX-8350+Eight-Core&id=1780

And games are indeed coming to where the FX has always been. It's a little late, but better late than never.
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Yeah overall an i3 is probably better value now for a budget gamer. A few years ago a cheapo 970 board and FX6300 was a great deal, but a little long in the tooth now.. i3s have more consistent performance, low PSU requirements, low cooling requirements and low end boards are plenty.
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That is all true. Nothing beats FX for bang for the buck. It's not even close. The price difference is quite large and when the FX is OCed it becomes even a better deal. http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=AMD+FX-8350+Eight-Core&id=1780

And games are indeed coming to where the FX has always been. It's a little late, but better late than never.
I saw an article from a German tech site that tested Doom with Vulkan on an 8350. They managed to keep 60fps even when the CPU was clocked down to 1.8Ghz.
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I saw an article from a German tech site that tested Doom with Vulkan on an 8350. They managed to keep 60fps even when the CPU was clocked down to 1.8Ghz.

Nice find. Google translation:
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In lower resolutions, the Plus precipitates comparable. however particularly interested us the effect on the processor, which is why we have added the optimized FX-8350 in the power saving mode at 1.8 GHz. Under OpenGL throttled CPU generates around 45 FPS, when changing to volcanic smooth 64 FPS (+42%). The low-level interface thus permits the liquid to play Doom in low power mode of the processor, only against the long load times, the modern API do nothing.

http://www.pcgameshardware.de/Doom-2016-Spiel-56369/News/Vulkan-Patch-bessere-Performance-Benchmarks-1201321/
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Yeah overall an i3 is probably better value now for a budget gamer. A few years ago a cheapo 970 board and FX6300 was a great deal, but a little long in the tooth now.. i3s have more consistent performance, low PSU requirements, low cooling requirements and low end boards are plenty.

Unless you want to actually play any modern games. Then it fails badly. The i3 is obsolete and the i5 is starting to struggle a bit. Meanwhile the FX keeps just chugging along.

Have you looked into the Witcher 3 forums? Intel quads have been reporting 100% cpu useage and stuttering. I have watched a video made by an i3 user claiming that the game is playable. It is NOT playable on an i3.
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