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Originally Posted by Scotty99 View Post

Well bro according to you i should buy a used 760, i am letting you know most people arent going to SLI mid range cards they will sell their old card and buy the new gen single card.

Well bro... If you were to buy the GTX 760, a card that's 3 generations old, today in 2016, I'd have to call you a muppet.
And I never said that anywhere. I was talking about the 760 SLI vs titan (then) and 1060 SLI vs 1080 (now).

Plus, your motherboard doesn't support SLI anyway.
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it would work.

Cool, glad we're on the same page. thumb.gif
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Cool, glad we're on the same page. thumb.gif

while 1060 doesn't sli and that is a fact whether one believes in the righteousness of joining low-end cards or not, I don't think rx480 being able to CF is gaining much advantage thanks to that feature since only 2 games out of 13 tested here get +80% scaling.


Edited by Klocek001 - 7/30/16 at 11:50am
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while 1060 doesn't sli and that is a fact whether one believes in the righteousness of joining low-end cards or not, I don't think rx480 being able to CF is gaining much advantage thanks to that feature since only 2 games out of 13 tested here get +80% scaling.


Still gonna give you better performance than a 1070 for less money (than most 1070's you can actually buy right now anyway). But your point is taken, most guys around here prefer the simplicity of single card performance so the omission of SLI on the 1060 may not be the end of the world but I still can't work out how you can possibly say with a straight face that taking options AWAY is somehow actually a good thing? I mean, strike that, I know exactly why YOU would say that but its still pretty idiotic...
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Originally Posted by Majin SSJ Eric View Post

Still gonna give you better performance than a 1070 for less money (than most 1070's you can actually buy right now anyway). But your point is taken, most guys around here prefer the simplicity of single card performance so the omission of SLI on the 1060 may not be the end of the world but I still can't work out how you can possibly say with a straight face that taking options AWAY is somehow actually a good thing? I mean, strike that, I know exactly why YOU would say that but its still pretty idiotic...

lol how so if CF 480X is around $500, needs a 650W PSU, and you just saw three games out of 13 fairly new ones have +60% scaling. that leaves 10 which don't scale to 60%, majority of which are either seeing negative scaling or very miserable one.
I read TPU review too, 480CF loses to a 1070 in 9 out of 16 games,while in most of the others it's got a very tiny lead, except for BO3. One game out of 16 that would make what you say about the performance and performance/price of CF 480 have any grounds.
It's 16% faster on avg without non-scaling games, and that's more like BO3 making not it look entirely embarassing on avg. That comes with no overclocking room for rx480 CF due to temperatures, unless you wanna make that $550 for AIB ones which will let you oc by 3-4%. Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

Laughable.

and when did I say it's a good thing ? point me to the excat words I said. I said it's a feature that is missing on 1060 but rx480 having it actually doesn't make it a big disadvantage for 1060 since CF in new games is very bad. you got reading comprehension issues.
Edited by Klocek001 - 7/31/16 at 1:00am
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lol how so if CF 480X is around $500, needs a 650W PSU, and you just saw three games out of 13 fairly new ones have +60% scaling. that leaves 10 which don't scale to 60%, majority of which are either seeing negative scaling or very miserable one.
I read TPU review too, 480CF loses to a 1070 in 9 out of 16 games,while in most of the others it's got a very tiny lead, except for BO3. One game out of 16 that would make what you say about the performance and performance/price of CF 480 have any grounds.
It's 16% faster on avg without non-scaling games, and that's more like BO3 making not it look entirely embarassing on avg. That comes with no overclocking room for rx480 CF due to temperatures, unless you wanna make that $550 for AIB ones which will let you oc by 3-4%. Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

Laughable.

and when did I say it's a good thing ? point me to the excat words I said. I said it's a feature that is missing on 1060 but rx480 having it actually doesn't make it a big disadvantage for 1060 since CF in new games is very bad. you got reading comprehension issues.

I agree that 1 1070 would be better then 2x 480's just to not have the hassle/bugs that is CF/SLI.

You dont need a 650W PSU though and they do overclock for more then 3%

1266mhz is base clock + 10% would be 1392mhz.
Most 480's hover around that, overclocks are around 10%
I know, a shocker.. around the same as NV cards.

1266mhz is max boost clock and everything on top of that is the OC.

With Nvidia cards people seem to look at minimum boost and base there OC on that while infact the max boost is alot higher.
Why the different standards ?

Because i'm lazy i will qoute an older post of myself here:

"How come that everytime when we talk about OC on AMD cards people look at base clock out of the box including max boost speed and how much you can OC that instead of looking at reference base clock without boost speed like everyone does with Nvidia.

Basicly everyone says a 980ti can OC for 30~40%, because here they do look at reference base clock without boost.
Yet my 980ti boost to 1392mhz out of the box and can only OC to 1450mhz.
Now people do this with 1070/1080 to but still AMD overclocks can only be calculated by out of the box max boost speed ? (Factory OC included wich you cant include when its a Nvidia card)
A 1080 can boost to like 1890mhz stock yet we look at OC's from 1733 or even the base of 1600mhz, on average they run 2050mhz overclocked.
1890mhz to 2050mhz is an amazing overclock all of the sudden ?
Its only like 7~8%


RX480 base clock is 1120mhz so why dont we calculate OC percentages based on that like everyone does with Nvidia cards ? ( not that i think you should, should look at max boost clock IMO)
Boost out of box is 1266mhz.
1266mhz to 1390mhz is how many % ?
More then the 7~8% Nvidia cards do !

By these wierd standards people are using by default AMD cards will always be poor overclockers.

Offcourse everyone will say i am wrong but when i use the same method with Nvidia cards people say i am wrong to. (and wrong again when i use Nvidia so called method on AMD cards)
Why cant OC percentages be calculated the same way no matter if its Nvidia or AMD ?"
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How many cards can do 1390, and how does that compare to a mItx GTX 1060 at 2.01Ghz boost?
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I've only seen one review that showed rx480 around 1.4GHz, other maxed out at 1.35GHz. Another thing is the memory oc limited by the driver, rx480 cannot hit 9GHz while 1060 can hit ~9.5GHz (+/- 100MHz)
ppl who compare 980ti reference vs aib compare reference boost vs aib oc boost, and that's plausible. reference boost would be how a reference 980ti would run out of the box. If they calculate the oc based on base clock they're stupid, but you'll find an idiot among any group of people really. the marketshare clearly show there are more idiots among nvidia users though.
I haven't seen any rx480 at 1.12GHz, don't know why sb would insist to calculate the oc % from that. that is very stupid of them as well.
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1060s easily do 2050MHz. Where as 480s so far do about 1350MHz.
1060s boost above boost clock by default. 480s boost below boost clock by default.
NV cards not just this generation seem to use better VRAM chips than AMD cards and their OC isn't limited in driver. Some 480s can OC all the way to the 2200 or 2250 limit in driver but some can't depending on what VRAM chips have been put on the card.

AMD is shooting themselves into a foot with the unavailability of custom 480s, big time.
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1060s easily do 2050MHz. Where as 480s so far do about 1350MHz.
1060s boost above boost clock by default. 480s boost below boost clock by default.
NV cards not just this generation seem to use better VRAM chips than AMD cards and their OC isn't limited in driver. Some 480s can OC all the way to the 2200 or 2250 limit in driver but some can't depending on what VRAM chips have been put on the card.

AMD is shooting themselves into a foot with the unavailability of custom 480s, big time.
They have too much backorders to fill on reference card that gpu chip is not enough for custom cards. that's why low and late availability. i guess they didn't think it will sell that much looking at how 280/380 sold previously.
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