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What games atm use Vulkan .. ?
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Originally Posted by ChevChelios View Post

so good that even old 3.5GB 970 beats (or ties) 8GB 480 in quite a few DX11 games
look at tpu performance summary chart, and say that again. man stop that nonsense shilling for once. even in nvidia sponsored mirror's edge catalyst that 480 will beat 970.
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7900 GTX/7950 GT and Radeon X1900 XTX/1950 XT.

In which case, the new mid range parts were 5%-15% slower than the last top end single card at best. 8600 GTS in SLI was only marginally faster.

You are basing your opinion on recent history, which has been different than the historical norm.

HD 2600 XT vs HD 2900 XT
HD 2900 XT: Shading Units:320 TMUs: 16 ROPs: 16 Die Size: 420 mm²
HD 2600 XT: Shading Units:120 TMUs: 8 ROPs: 4 Die Size: 153 mm²
Compared to the big chip, the HD 2600 XT had 66% fewer shaders, 50% fewer TMUs, and 75% fewer ROPs.

8600 GTS vs 8800 GTX
8800 GTX: Shading Units: 128 TMUs: 32 ROPs: 24 Die Size: 484 mm²
8600 GTS: Shading Units: 32 TMUs: 16 ROPs: 8 Die Size: 169 mm²
Compared to the big chip, the 8600 GTS had 75% fewer shaders, 50% fewer TMUs, and 66% fewer ROPs.

Not sure by what measure you could consider the HD 2600 XT or 8600 GTS mid-grade chips when they were clearly a small chips. Comparing a small chip to a large chip of the previous generation would, in fact, yield lower performance in comparison to the large chip.
Edited by Slomo4shO - 7/8/16 at 7:52am
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Originally Posted by GorillaSceptre View Post

None of them, including ROTR now are detrimental on GCN.

Asynchronous Shading is also most likely not going to be in many titles except for Gaming Evolved ones, that's why i haven't made a huge deal about it. DX12 and Vukan are huge deals, however. That's where the industry is going.
Yeah, i get that. I feel the same about most of those games, the only ones I'm looking forward to is BF1, FH3, Deus Ex, and Gears 4. Hitman, QB, never appealed to me, and I'll pick TW Warhammer up in a sale.

I was just saying that DX12/Vulkan performance is a big factor, as most future Tripple-A's (the tier of games that need extra performance, unlike the smaller ones which easily get 100+FPS on any hardware) are all going to be taking advantage of modern rendering techniques. Finally.. thumb.gif


It's not like the games don't run on Nvidia hardware though, so you toss a coin and take your pick. What AMD people seem to be saying is that they are willing to sacrifice DX11 performance for the possibility of better DX12 performance in the future. It's the opposite for Nvidia people, willing to risk the possibility of poor DX12 performance in the future for better DX11 performance now.

Pick your poison but neither option is wrong or right.
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post #325 of 1449
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Most green boyz are still playing games from 2013 where their Kepler card is relevant.

LOL, so green boyz should be playing the games you think they should be playing because they use the newest tech? I mean I am not going to suggest people play crappy games just because they support DX12...lol

This reminds of the people who hated on Fallout 4 because it wasn't visually ground breaking.
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It's not like the games don't run on Nvidia hardware though, so you toss a coin and take your pick. What AMD people seem to be saying is that they are willing to sacrifice DX11 performance for the possibility of better DX12 performance in the future. It's the opposite for Nvidia people, willing to risk the possibility of poor DX12 performance in the future for better DX11 performance now.

Pick your poison but neither option is wrong or right.

QFT

I get sick of people who think their way is the only right way!
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thats silly

you should hate on FO4 because its a mediocre game with boring gameplay and Sims-like DLC
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It's not like the games don't run on Nvidia hardware though, so you toss a coin and take your pick. What AMD people seem to be saying is that they are willing to sacrifice DX11 performance for the possibility of better DX12 performance in the future. It's the opposite for Nvidia people, willing to risk the possibility of poor DX12 performance in the future for better DX11 performance now.

Pick your poison but neither option is wrong or right.

One might argue that the population of people playing DX9/DX11 games right now is many times higher than anyone playing a true DX12 title. When DX12 becomes a reality in 80%+ of games do you think the RX480's performance will still be relevant?
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This reminds of the people who hated on Fallout 4 because it wasn't visually ground breaking.

There was plenty to dislike about Fallout 4. I don't think the visual effects even make it into the top 10 biggrin.gif
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Originally Posted by ChevChelios View Post

thats silly

you should hate on FO4 because its a mediocre game with boring gameplay and Sims-like DLC
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There was plenty to dislike about Fallout 4. I don't think the visual effects even make it into the top 10 biggrin.gif

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This reminds of the people who hated on Fallout 4 because it wasn't visually ground breaking.

There was plenty to dislike about Fallout 4. I don't think the visual effects even make it into the top 10 biggrin.gif

QFT.
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