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they can absolutely kill it with those prices redface.gif


and 1050 vs 470
Edited by ChevChelios - 7/8/16 at 10:08am
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Originally Posted by ChevChelios View Post

they can absolutely kill it with those prices redface.gif


and 1050 vs 470

It must get tiresome tooting that horn all day every day whistle.gif
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Originally Posted by FLCLimax View Post

Gotta get that 220fps in WoW.

Is there some point you are trying to make?
Edited by Slomo4shO - 7/8/16 at 10:18am
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Gotta get that 220fps in WoW.


hahaha!
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Originally Posted by ChevChelios View Post

I didnt care back then redface.gif

and 290X =/= 480

780Ti =/= 980
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Originally Posted by Zero_ View Post

You got it the wrong way around. Direct X 12 will become mainstream as soon as Nvidia fixes their Async issues.
you really think the weak link on dx12 is nvidia? there are 6 way more big companies behind it pushing it they really dont care about nvidia but what they do care is quallcomm and their slow as sloth mode to find a way to port dx12 into their system
https://www.qualcomm.com/news/onq/2014/03/25/next-gen-mobile-gaming-microsoft-directx-12-and-qualcomm-snapdragon
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you really think the weak link on dx12 is nvidia? there are 6 way more big companies behind it pushing it they really dont care about nvidia but what they do care is quallcomm and their slow as sloth mode to find a way to port dx12 into their system
https://www.qualcomm.com/news/onq/2014/03/25/next-gen-mobile-gaming-microsoft-directx-12-and-qualcomm-snapdragon

They dont care that much. MS products make up less than 1% of the mobile market. Vulkan OTOH, is important to them.
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They dont care that much. MS products make up less than 1% of the mobile market. Vulkan OTOH, is important to them.
its not about ms products.... you miss the point shot the cat forgot the leopard behind you kinda thing..

its about creating the perfect homogenous ecosystem to lower the cost on everything why you think ms is bringing their profiling tools from ms to pc? out of their good heart or because they dont want vulkan to get traction?
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its not about ms products.... you miss the point shot the cat forgot the leopard behind you kinda thing..

its about creating the perfect homogenous ecosystem to lower the cost on everything why you think ms is bringing their profiling tools from ms to pc? out of their good heart or because they dont want vulkan to get traction?

Because they are using it to subsidize their mobile and MS Store market share which is nonexistent. Mobile phone people could care less about MS because they represent zero profit to them. Which is why Qualcomm is dragging its feet on DX12. redface.gif

Also going to point out that DX11 hardware is mostly compliant with DX12, it really just comes down to the software layer.
Edited by KarathKasun - 7/8/16 at 11:04am
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Performance gains are pretty linear. You prefer a 18% performance gain over a 33% performance gain?

You know what i mean..

If you agree with the "80% DX12 support or bust" argument then that's fine. I'm saying i don't care if Dota or the other 80% of titles support DX12/Vulkan or not, i care whether or not the graphically intensive titles do, most of the AAA titles are supporting the new API's.

I'll word it the way i should have in the first place..

"I don't know about you, but going from 55 to 65fps is more important to me in a performance heavy title, than going from 150 to 160fps in a small Indy.." There. tongue.gif
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It's a matter of perspective, to me it isn't relevant now.
Again, I'm not into trying to predict the future. The "possibility" lies in whether or not AMD will have a performance advantage, not whether or not DX12 provides performance advantages.

Of course everything could flip and Nvidia could start getting bigger gains than AMD in the future, their Async driver might finally come out, etc., etc. But at this point the writing's on the wall.. Maxwell/Pascal cards don't even render everything in Ashes in order to stop them from choking.

We now have 8 DX12 supported titles that all show AMD getting bigger gains, we aren't just talking about one outlier.

Which will have the greatest outright performance? We can answer that right now, the 1080/70. DX12/Vulkan aren't stopping that train, but it will give AMD a significant lead in perf-per-$. What AMD's enthusiast-end cards do to the 1070/80 is anyone's guess (whenever they're coming out.. rolleyes.gif), but i think most would say lose. tongue.gif
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You know what i mean..

If you agree with the "80% DX12 support or bust" argument then that's fine. I'm saying i don't care if Dota or the other 80% of titles support DX12/Vulkan or not, i care whether or not the graphically intensive titles do, most of the AAA titles are supporting the new API's.

Fair point. From an enthusiast point of view, I can appreciate this stance. How about for gamers that use low end cards or laptops for gaming? Wouldn't a 10-15% performance gain for any title be relevant to them?
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I'll word it the way i should have in the first place..

"I don't know about you, but going from 55 to 65fps is more important to me in a performance heavy title, than going from 150 to 177fps in a small Indy.." There. tongue.gif

FTFY

Also, I would like to see greater support for Vulkan. Not really a fan of Windows 10 and DX12.
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They need CoD from the year before last to go up from 159fps to 171 fps, who cares about current games and ones coming out in the near future anymore?
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