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Originally Posted by GorillaSceptre View Post

Which will have the greatest outright performance? We can answer that right now, the 1080/70. DX12/Vulkan aren't stopping that train, but it will give AMD a significant lead in perf-per-$. What AMD's enthusiast-end cards do to the 1070/80 is anyone's guess (whenever they're coming out.. rolleyes.gif), but i think most would say lose. tongue.gif

That was my point exactly. The GTX 10 series is the only high performance option (for people wanting new stuff) right now. I do indeed want to get a Vega card, but I want it for Freesync not because of DX12. I got a 1070 because the 480 was a big letdown for me, if Vega does the same I will either get another 1070 or 1080ti/Titan.

Performance per dollar only matters to some people, quite a few of us could care less. Unless we are talking about two cards that perform similarly.
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Originally Posted by BillOhio View Post

So in terms of pure grunt power the 1060 will be within a few frames of a 980(?) which in turn is pretty comparable in pure grunt to my 7950 XFire. Obviously a single card with more VRAM and less power usage (and more display port outs) is preferable but even on 1440 x 3440 the only 2 games I play (BF:BC2 and Overwatch as of last night) still look pretty fantastic. I have to say, If the games that I play are already looking good it's difficult to justify a new card, as much as I might want to buy one.

A 980ti is about the 7950 crossfire performance. The 980 is just like 7950 crossfire with 65-75% scaling. And nost of the time you get 90+ scaling
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Fair point. From an enthusiast point of view, I can appreciate this stance. How about for gamers that use low end cards or laptops for gaming? Wouldn't a 10-15% performance gain for any title be relevant to them?

Well no. If they're using a 60hz monitor, and a game they play gets a boost from 70 to 80 FPS, it's not relevant.
But in that same scenario if another game gets from 50 to 60, that IS more relevant, isn't it? Since given the fact that they're using lower end cards, more games would be considered as "graphically intensive". The original point still stands.
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Also, I would like to see greater support for Vulkan. Not really a fan of Windows 10 and DX12.

You and me both brudda. I don't like being pigeonholed into a corner just for the sake of getting access to DX12.
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That was my point exactly. The GTX 10 series is the only high performance option (for people wanting new stuff) right now. I do indeed want to get a Vega card, but I want it for Freesync not because of DX12. I got a 1070 because the 480 was a big letdown for me, if Vega does the same I will either get another 1070 or 1080ti/Titan.

Performance per dollar only matters to some people, quite a few of us could care less. Unless we are talking about two cards that perform similarly.

How could you be considering a mainstream RX 480 if you don't concern yourself with performance per dollar? lachen.gif

Or did the aesthetics let you down? It's ok to prefer NVIDIA and it's also ok to only want their cards, it doesn't automatically make you a troll or a fanboy. You seem like a decent guy, just come out and hold your head high.
Edited by FLCLimax - 7/8/16 at 11:28am
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Originally Posted by Slomo4shO View Post

Fair point. From an enthusiast point of view, I can appreciate this stance. How about for gamers that use low end cards or laptops for gaming? Wouldn't a 10-15% performance gain for any title be relevant to them?

That was my whole point earlier.

We're talking about AMD vs Nvidia in DX12 on discrete performance hardware. If we were in a igpu thread then the "80%" argument would make sense.

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Originally Posted by Slomo4shO View Post

FTFY

Also, I would like to see greater support for Vulkan. Not really a fan of Windows 10 and DX12.

Semantics..



tongue.gif

Yeah, I'd also prefer more Vulkan, but that's doubtful.
post #366 of 1449
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Originally Posted by FLCLimax View Post

They need CoD from the year before last to go up from 159fps to 171 fps, who cares about current games and ones coming out in the near future anymore?

Why are you so concerned about what people like to play? So called AAA titles like Division die within a few months of release. Shouldn't players see performance gains in titles that they actually play? Is it not possible to increase resolution and/or image quality as a result of greater performance?


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I just said they need their 200fps in such titles, is something wrong?
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Originally Posted by bigjdubb View Post

That was my point exactly. The GTX 10 series is the only high performance option (for people wanting new stuff) right now. I do indeed want to get a Vega card, but I want it for Freesync not because of DX12. I got a 1070 because the 480 was a big letdown for me, if Vega does the same I will either get another 1070 or 1080ti/Titan.

Performance per dollar only matters to some people, quite a few of us could care less. Unless we are talking about two cards that perform similarly.

What?

Why would you even be considering/dissapointed in the 480 if you're looking for 1070-tier performance? You're aware AMD aren't charging $400 + for the 480?

I've been talking about the low-tier battle, 480 vs 1060.

Edit:

The cheapest custom 1070 I've seen is $420.. You can CF 2 480's for less. People who are buying in that price range most certainly care about perf-per-$, in fact, it's the most important thing.
Edited by GorillaSceptre - 7/8/16 at 11:33am
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What?

Why would you even be considering/dissapointed in the 480 if you're looking for 1070-tier performance? You're aware AMD aren't charging $400 + for the 480?

I've been talking about the low-tier battle, 480 vs 1060.


Very thinly veiled, isn't it?
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I just said they need their 200fps in such titles, is something wrong?
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