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Again? I wouldn't say NV has a habit of doing the bare minimum. They usually offer much better reference coolers and at least SLI support on mid-range cards. These are big sacrifices. It makes a person wonder what's contributing to those sacrifices. TSMC fabs might be a bit too expensive.

Well 1070 ref cooler is +$70 and 1080 ref cooler is +$100, so for 1060 ref cooler that fancy 6 pin position should be worth the +$50. Right?

What is the $30 difference on the 1070 vs 1080 cooler? Besides the engraving of 8 for a 7?


The 1080 uses a vapour chamber, the 1070 uses heatpipes.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/10336/nvidia-posts-full-geforce-gtx-1070-specs
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The GTX 1070 Founders Edition card will retain the basic stylings of the GTX 1080, including NVIDIA’s new angular shroud. However I have received confirmation that as this is a lower TDP card, it will not get the GTX 1080’s vapor chamber cooler. Instead it will use an integrated heatpipe cooler similar to what the reference GTX 980 used.
 
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The 1080 uses a vapour chamber, the 1070 uses heatpipes.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/10336/nvidia-posts-full-geforce-gtx-1070-specs

I think the point he was trying to make was that Nvidia is overcharging for a worse performing card (when compared to AIBs). Which is actually why we're seeing AIB prices creep up on FE prices.
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I think the point he was trying to make was that Nvidia is overcharging for a worse performing card (when compared to AIBs). Which is actually why we're seeing AIB prices creep up on FE prices.

The question is, does because nvidia design the reference board, spends a lot of money and resources on the QA at the partners in order to make sure the cards are in spec, and over time reference boards don't sell as well since people prefer the better, cooler, more performing custom PCB cards, nvidia decided to not take the price hit, and just sell the reference cards for higher price tag?
If nvidia supply almost everything, from the coolers to the design, to the QA of the boards, add the higher price of the initial development of the high end bigger chips on the first 16nm batches, it might be that AIB are overall cheaper to make than reference, at least to nvidia.
So they say "well might as well sell them high now, since we won't get the investment back later".
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The question is, does because nvidia design the reference board, spends a lot of money and resources on the QA at the partners in order to make sure the cards are in spec, and over time reference boards don't sell as well since people prefer the better, cooler, more performing custom PCB cards, nvidia decided to not take the price hit, and just sell the reference cards for higher price tag?
If nvidia supply almost everything, from the coolers to the design, to the QA of the boards, add the higher price of the initial development of the high end bigger chips on the first 16nm batches, it might be that AIB are overall cheaper to make than reference, at least to nvidia.
So they say "well might as well sell them high now, since we won't get the investment back later".

Everything you mentioned held true in the past. Yet reference wasn't priced above AIB. So I don't really subscribe to that logic.

What it is, is that Nvidia now feels like the have a dominant enough position to pull this kind of crap off, and get away with it.
Edited by Exeed Orbit - 7/9/16 at 7:25am
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I doubt NV has factories to manufacture cards, they probably just design or codesign the cards and coolers and someone else manufactures it for them. The reference cards would sell better if all of them from any brand weren't so bad in terms of cooling, noise and power capabilities. They can't expect to sell crap well.
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I doubt NV has factories to manufacture cards, they probably just design or codesign the cards and coolers and someone else manufactures it for them.

Pretty sure that Foxconn manufacturers Nvidia branded cards.
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The 1080 uses a vapour chamber, the 1070 uses heatpipes.

Interestingly enough, the cost of manufacturing a vapor chamber heatsink is very comparable to that of a standard heatpipes design. Vapor chamber is now just fluff marketing to charge a premium.
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im finally going to upgrade my 560ti. will my cpu bottle neck?
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im finally going to upgrade my 560ti. will my cpu bottle neck?

Your 5 year old CPU will not be bottlenecked by GPU performance from 3 years ago thumb.gif
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im finally going to upgrade my 560ti. will my cpu bottle neck?


it may. Depend on game you play. My 4790k at 4.7 is just good enough to hold good fps in arma 3 with my 7950... But most of the time im cpu bound.


Battlefield 4 and the new one may benefit from a new cpu in the near future.. With 64 player map loaded you may have drop and or low minimum fps

Rx 480 is like 45% faster than a 7950 if not more.
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