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post #811 of 1449
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Originally Posted by Farih View Post

Have you seen how meaningless they test WoW ?
NV cards have always done better in WoW but it doesnt matter because you never ever are going to have 100+FPS there where it matters.
Your lucky if you get 60+FPS even.

Try Ashran in a spot where the Ally's and Horde meet up and fight.
You could have a 1080 but still wont go over 60+FPS.

Game is so CPU limited at points in the game that it wont matter if you have a 480 or 1060, both will be CPU bottlenecked.

I play WoW on 1 PC with a 290x and on the other PC with a 980ti.
The 980ti might get 3 to 5FPS more in CPU bottlenecked situations, nothing to write home about.

Pretty much it. In places where you can get repeatable patterms (like a flight path) performance does not matter,and in places that performance matters (world pvp,raids etc) you cannot get repeatable patterns to bench. WoW engine is very obsolete. It did get a bunch of nvidia effects the last years.
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Can you tell me what cpus were used in both reviews?

Both used a 6700k overclocked to 4.5 or 4.7Ghz.
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post #813 of 1449
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blizz is a long term nvidia partner
WoW and other Blizzard titles are just heavily cpu bound so naturally prefer nvidia over amd cards.
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post #814 of 1449
I'm not really shocked that Pascal isnt being blown out the water by AMD with DX12 and Async (yet?)

Something like this has happened every time as of recent that AMD has had to rely on software accommodating their hardware design.

With Bulldozer AMD counted on software to all of a sudden go from 1-2 cores used well to 8 cores used almost perfectly. The result of that is that AMD got murdered in contemporary programs and along with the dumb Pentium 4 like GHz gamble struggled to perform even in multithreaded tasks. Software devs loled at Bulldozer and continued to go on as usual because their programs worked well enough on 90%+ of consumers Intel CPUs and they werent going to break their backs to support 8 core CPUs.

With APUs AMD counted on software to use Hetereogenous Systems Architecture to make them more competitive but it was pretty much DOA outside of a few programs. To be fair, HSA is a really, really, really good idea and its the future, but currently its another victim of AMD proposing innovative concepts but lacks the resources to support it.

Now with GPUs AMD relied on developers picking up DX12 and Asynchronous compute. Asynchronous Compute turned out to be an awful lot of work for devs to go through with for just a 10% boost on a minority of the install base's cards. NVIDIA created their own workaround with Async compute with Pascal as well. While AMD cards are really competitive now, that came at the cost of a massive market share tumble when GCN was still using DX11.
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post #815 of 1449
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WoW and other Blizzard titles are just heavily cpu bound so naturally prefer nvidia over amd cards.

Nvidia is indeed a long term partner of Blizz. To the point that WoW jumped on the gameworks bandwagon early on.

https://blogs.nvidia.com/blog/2015/02/24/warlords-of-draenor-gameworks/
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Because the only times in WoW is when you are raiding? How is this any less relevant than all the people in here talking about dx12 games or vulcan when no one knows how that is going to pan out at all.

To me, WoW and overwatch benches are far more relevant than going on about games that dont even exist, and might never exist.

Did is say something about games that dont exist ?

If your not raiding you do Ashran or stand still and pride in a major city.
All area's that are limited by your CPU and all area's where most people spend most of there time.

Yeah in the outside world where you do a silly qeusts there you might get more FPS.

Just trying to say that before spending big bucks on a GPU in Blizzard games i would look at my CPU first.
Overclocking my CPU gave me more FPS in the places you need it then going from 290x to a 980ti.

Its just info, not an attack wink.gif

And yes if i only played Blizzard games then yes i would get a Nvidia GPU to.
But do you only play those 2 games ?
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post #817 of 1449
So as i expected only one of the 1060 reviews on YouTube i watched tested DX12, and none did Doom with Vulkan..

I'm actually surprised the $300 FE cooled 1060 (which boosts quite high) is only 6% on average faster than the pretty miserable reference cooled 480 under DX11.. Price wise the $249 AIB 1060's ( if they ever are that price) will be up against cards like the 480 Nitro.

Perf-per-$ the 480 is still ahead. Not bad for a failure. tongue.gif
post #818 of 1449
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So as i expected only one of the 1060 reviews on YouTube i watched tested DX12, and none did Doom with Vulkan..

I'm actually surprised the $300 FE cooled 1060 (which boosts quite high) is only 6% on average faster than the pretty miserable reference cooled 480 under DX11.. Price wise the $249 AIB 1060's ( if they ever are that price) will be up against cards like the 480 Nitro.

Perf-per-$ the 480 is still ahead. Not bad for a failure. tongue.gif

Watch Digital Foundry. They are the best when it comes to reviewing cards.
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post #819 of 1449
alright this answers about TW:WH
http://www.techspot.com/review/1209-nvidia-geforce-gtx-1060/page3.html

https://i.imgur.com/pdciHGX.png
https://i.imgur.com/pdciHGX.png

even the inferior beta DX12 of 1060 is as good there as the well performing DX12 of 480 .. and 1060s DX11 still beats 480s DX12


so yeah this leaves Vulkan Doom and Hitman as the 2 titles where 480 clearly beats 1060



http://www.techspot.com/review/1209-nvidia-geforce-gtx-1060/page6.html here in Ashes it even manages to beat 480, though thats with High graphics
Edited by ChevChelios - 7/19/16 at 7:31am
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post #820 of 1449
The 1060 price/performance ratio is WAYYYYYY worst than the rx 480. Point for AMD here, this cards aim the budget target where price/perfomance is everything, seems like AMD nailed with the 480.
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