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post #831 of 1449
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Originally Posted by Master__Shake View Post

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bested by a 780ti at launch and then matching a 980 later...

it almost like they weren't abandoned like a different gpu maker would have.

980 is only 5-7% faster than a 780ti, AMD driver corner cutting(remember Catalyst 12.11 frametime cheating?) can easily make that happen in a year.
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post #832 of 1449
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I'm not really shocked that Pascal isnt being blown out the water by AMD with DX12 and Async (yet?)

Something like this has happened every time as of recent that AMD has had to rely on software accommodating their hardware design.

With Bulldozer AMD counted on software to all of a sudden go from 1-2 cores used well to 8 cores used almost perfectly. The result of that is that AMD got murdered in contemporary programs and along with the dumb Pentium 4 like GHz gamble struggled to perform even in multithreaded tasks. Software devs loled at Bulldozer and continued to go on as usual because their programs worked well enough on 90%+ of consumers Intel CPUs and they werent going to break their backs to support 8 core CPUs.

With APUs AMD counted on software to use Hetereogenous Systems Architecture to make them more competitive but it was pretty much DOA outside of a few programs. To be fair, HSA is a really, really, really good idea and its the future, but currently its another victim of AMD proposing innovative concepts but lacks the resources to support it.

Now with GPUs AMD relied on developers picking up DX12 and Asynchronous compute. Asynchronous Compute turned out to be an awful lot of work for devs to go through with for just a 10% boost on a minority of the install base's cards. NVIDIA created their own workaround with Async compute with Pascal as well. While AMD cards are really competitive now, that came at the cost of a massive market share tumble when GCN was still using DX11.
Brute force approach implemented back then by Intel and now by Nvidia requires less software optimization which simply translates into lower costs and faster development for software houses.
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post #833 of 1449
This is eerily similar to the 960 thread..

Meh, whoever falls for the same things twice deserves it.
post #834 of 1449
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Originally Posted by sherlock View Post

980 is only 5-7% faster than a 780ti, AMD driver corner cutting(remember Catalyst 12.11 frametime cheating?) can easily make that happen in a year.

Cool benchmark from Sep 18th, 2014 you linked there
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980 is only 5-7% faster than a 780ti, AMD driver corner cutting(remember Catalyst 12.11 frametime cheating?) can easily make that happen in a year.

You mean the random skyrim swedish or norwegian bench that started that FUD in 2012?
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This is eerily similar to the 960 thread..

Meh, whoever falls for the same things twice deserves it.

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post #837 of 1449
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That it comes twice as much power than necessary...

So far it seems like R.I.P. AMD, 1060 is what RX 480 should have been. AMD failed again, can't even get custom card to market in time. If the 1060s are available easily at $249 they are gonna have a hard time selling any RX 480s at this price range.

Well its an older back then high end card.
Both Nvidia and AMD's high end cards use alot of power and get hot.

Reference 290x was crap but aftermarket one's arent.
My 290x Vapor-X runs 1200mhz +150mV and never goes above 72degrees with a custom (silent) fan profile.
Basicly about the same as my overclocked 980ti.
Sure the 980ti has more performance but its also 3 years newer.
I can only hope my 980ti will last that long.

The 1060 isnt all the 480 should have been in my book.
I reckon OC vs OC they will lickely perform similar with probably an advantage to the 480 on DX12.

AMD just really shot themselfs in the foot for still not having AIB cards out, i really dont get it why they arent here yet.
If they would have AIB cards out they might have been used in these reviews to and this might have looked better.
Why AMD ? Why ?!?
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post #838 of 1449
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so the whole "480 is faster in DX12" is:

- not true in RotR and TW WH .. in RoTR 480 is slower even with async patch, in TH WH they are even in DX12 and 1060 is still faster in DX11
- in Ashes its either equal or a slight edge to one or the other (one review I saw had 480 win by a few fps, another had 1060 win by a fewfps)
- very true for Hitman and Doom Vulkan

and thats it, didnt see any other DX12 games tested
and proof ?
any ACTUAL PROOF
you posted a tw bench that doesnt make sense 980 got out of nothing +20% perf while not a single bench for it showed that
http://www.dsogaming.com/news/report-total-war-warhammer-runs-27-slower-dx12-nvidias-hardware/
also im still waiting for you to post a 1060 running on the latests patch of rotr with "async" on
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Originally Posted by nakano2k1 View Post

Let's see...

OOS
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aaaaaaannnnnddd....

OOS

I'm starting to think they just sent out a limited supply just to avoid paper launch. $249 GTX1060's will probably follow same path of $199 RX480's.
post #840 of 1449
I don't know what people is complaining about.
Newegg is already selling a 1060 Windforce for $250.

All around it's a clearly better crafted piece of hardware when compared to the RX480.
At least the reference cooler is actually pretty good.
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