Overclock.net › Forums › Cooling › Water Cooling › help choosing some parts.
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:

help choosing some parts.

post #1 of 12
Thread Starter 
I currently have a gtx 780 HOF from galaxy. I am having trouble finding another one. So I am considering the EVGA superclocked variant.
My question is if i buy this card, with the water block ports line up? I would like to utilize a parallel links from EK.

Next is the radiator upgrade. I currently am running a pair of crappy magicool 140mm slims in series. I would like to replace this set up with a single 280mm (2x140) , or even the right 420 (3x140) radiator. I have roughly 3 and 3/16" clearance for rad and push or pull fans. I would have to go as thin as 38-40mm to run a push pull set up.

all suggestions are welcome as usual here.

Thanks in advance
ROGBeast RIP
(16 items)
 
- X58 Xeon Club -
(22 photos)
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Xeon W3680 asus ramage iii extreme Galaxy GTX 780 Hall of Fame Crucial Ballistix Tactical LP 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
2x Samsung 850 evo raid 0 raptor 10k blueray something EK Supremecy Evo 
CoolingMonitorMonitorKeyboard
EK 780-FC HOF asus pg279 Asus pg279 Corsair Strafe RGB 
PowerCaseMouseAudio
Cooler Master V1200 Platinum  Corsair Carbide 760T Corsair Scimitar Sound Blaster 3D recon 
  hide details  
Reply
ROGBeast RIP
(16 items)
 
- X58 Xeon Club -
(22 photos)
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Xeon W3680 asus ramage iii extreme Galaxy GTX 780 Hall of Fame Crucial Ballistix Tactical LP 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
2x Samsung 850 evo raid 0 raptor 10k blueray something EK Supremecy Evo 
CoolingMonitorMonitorKeyboard
EK 780-FC HOF asus pg279 Asus pg279 Corsair Strafe RGB 
PowerCaseMouseAudio
Cooler Master V1200 Platinum  Corsair Carbide 760T Corsair Scimitar Sound Blaster 3D recon 
  hide details  
Reply
post #2 of 12
I reckon check with EK for that, but I think there is a good chance they won't line up.
There's always a solution though, can run the tubing around the outside, instead of inbetween.
Ol'Faithful
(11 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Xeon x5660 P6X58D-E XFX AMD Radeon R9 280X Corsair Vengeance 24 GB Triple Chanel 6x4GB 
Optical DriveCoolingOSMonitor
Lite-On DVD-RW Noctua DH-14 CPU Cooler Windows 7 Pro x64 Samsung 24" LED 1080p 5ms DVI (S23A300B) 
PowerMouseAudio
Thermaltake Toughpower 750W Gold Corsair M95 Onboard :S 
  hide details  
Reply
Ol'Faithful
(11 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Xeon x5660 P6X58D-E XFX AMD Radeon R9 280X Corsair Vengeance 24 GB Triple Chanel 6x4GB 
Optical DriveCoolingOSMonitor
Lite-On DVD-RW Noctua DH-14 CPU Cooler Windows 7 Pro x64 Samsung 24" LED 1080p 5ms DVI (S23A300B) 
PowerMouseAudio
Thermaltake Toughpower 750W Gold Corsair M95 Onboard :S 
  hide details  
Reply
post #3 of 12
If EK makes blocks for both of them I'd be surprised if water block don't line up, but again you should check with them.
Lightbringer
(17 items)
 
Naranek
(10 items)
 
pfSense
(7 items)
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsGraphics
5960x 4.5Ghz asus x99 deluxe NVidia 980 GTX Nvidia 980 GTX 
RAMHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
Corsair Vengeance Intel 750 M.2 SSD 1.2TB LG Blue Ray Koolance 380i 
CoolingCoolingOSMonitor
EK-FC980 EK-FC980 Windows 8.1 x64 Asus Rog Swift 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Dell u3011 Logitech g710+ Seasonic 860 Fractal design arc xl 
Mouse
Logitech g700 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel 5820k ASRock X99E-ITX/ac Gigabyte GTX 960 Windforce GSkill Ares 16 GB 2400 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveOS
Samsung 950 pro 256 Samsung 840 500GB UJ-265 Panasonic Windows 10 
PowerCase
Silverstone SFX-L 500W Silverstone Mini ITX ML07B 
CPUMotherboardRAMCooling
Intel core i3 2120 portwell wade 8012 Gskill Noctua NH-L9i 
OSPowerCase
pfSense picoPSU-160-XT  MITXPC MX500 
  hide details  
Reply
Lightbringer
(17 items)
 
Naranek
(10 items)
 
pfSense
(7 items)
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsGraphics
5960x 4.5Ghz asus x99 deluxe NVidia 980 GTX Nvidia 980 GTX 
RAMHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
Corsair Vengeance Intel 750 M.2 SSD 1.2TB LG Blue Ray Koolance 380i 
CoolingCoolingOSMonitor
EK-FC980 EK-FC980 Windows 8.1 x64 Asus Rog Swift 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Dell u3011 Logitech g710+ Seasonic 860 Fractal design arc xl 
Mouse
Logitech g700 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel 5820k ASRock X99E-ITX/ac Gigabyte GTX 960 Windforce GSkill Ares 16 GB 2400 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveOS
Samsung 950 pro 256 Samsung 840 500GB UJ-265 Panasonic Windows 10 
PowerCase
Silverstone SFX-L 500W Silverstone Mini ITX ML07B 
CPUMotherboardRAMCooling
Intel core i3 2120 portwell wade 8012 Gskill Noctua NH-L9i 
OSPowerCase
pfSense picoPSU-160-XT  MITXPC MX500 
  hide details  
Reply
post #4 of 12
Thread Starter 
Thanks. I sent an email to ek to see if they line up. Looking at the website it looks like they might. I really want to run the link between the cards. Hard enough of the tubing and threaded links to each card.

What about the radiator? I am thinking about the alphacool xt45 420. Sr1 420. Or the ek cool stream 40mm thick white one
ROGBeast RIP
(16 items)
 
- X58 Xeon Club -
(22 photos)
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Xeon W3680 asus ramage iii extreme Galaxy GTX 780 Hall of Fame Crucial Ballistix Tactical LP 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
2x Samsung 850 evo raid 0 raptor 10k blueray something EK Supremecy Evo 
CoolingMonitorMonitorKeyboard
EK 780-FC HOF asus pg279 Asus pg279 Corsair Strafe RGB 
PowerCaseMouseAudio
Cooler Master V1200 Platinum  Corsair Carbide 760T Corsair Scimitar Sound Blaster 3D recon 
  hide details  
Reply
ROGBeast RIP
(16 items)
 
- X58 Xeon Club -
(22 photos)
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Xeon W3680 asus ramage iii extreme Galaxy GTX 780 Hall of Fame Crucial Ballistix Tactical LP 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
2x Samsung 850 evo raid 0 raptor 10k blueray something EK Supremecy Evo 
CoolingMonitorMonitorKeyboard
EK 780-FC HOF asus pg279 Asus pg279 Corsair Strafe RGB 
PowerCaseMouseAudio
Cooler Master V1200 Platinum  Corsair Carbide 760T Corsair Scimitar Sound Blaster 3D recon 
  hide details  
Reply
post #5 of 12
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dmitriy View Post

If EK makes blocks for both of them I'd be surprised if water block don't line up, but again you should check with them.

I had a 780 Ti Palit Jetstream and a 780 Ti EVGA Classy. Fullcover EK blocks for both. They didn't line up.
Ol'Faithful
(11 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Xeon x5660 P6X58D-E XFX AMD Radeon R9 280X Corsair Vengeance 24 GB Triple Chanel 6x4GB 
Optical DriveCoolingOSMonitor
Lite-On DVD-RW Noctua DH-14 CPU Cooler Windows 7 Pro x64 Samsung 24" LED 1080p 5ms DVI (S23A300B) 
PowerMouseAudio
Thermaltake Toughpower 750W Gold Corsair M95 Onboard :S 
  hide details  
Reply
Ol'Faithful
(11 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Xeon x5660 P6X58D-E XFX AMD Radeon R9 280X Corsair Vengeance 24 GB Triple Chanel 6x4GB 
Optical DriveCoolingOSMonitor
Lite-On DVD-RW Noctua DH-14 CPU Cooler Windows 7 Pro x64 Samsung 24" LED 1080p 5ms DVI (S23A300B) 
PowerMouseAudio
Thermaltake Toughpower 750W Gold Corsair M95 Onboard :S 
  hide details  
Reply
post #6 of 12
Thread Starter 
what about a thick radiator in push or pull only??
Or run a slim profile to run push/pull??

Both variants of 140x3 420mm radiators
ROGBeast RIP
(16 items)
 
- X58 Xeon Club -
(22 photos)
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Xeon W3680 asus ramage iii extreme Galaxy GTX 780 Hall of Fame Crucial Ballistix Tactical LP 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
2x Samsung 850 evo raid 0 raptor 10k blueray something EK Supremecy Evo 
CoolingMonitorMonitorKeyboard
EK 780-FC HOF asus pg279 Asus pg279 Corsair Strafe RGB 
PowerCaseMouseAudio
Cooler Master V1200 Platinum  Corsair Carbide 760T Corsair Scimitar Sound Blaster 3D recon 
  hide details  
Reply
ROGBeast RIP
(16 items)
 
- X58 Xeon Club -
(22 photos)
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Xeon W3680 asus ramage iii extreme Galaxy GTX 780 Hall of Fame Crucial Ballistix Tactical LP 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
2x Samsung 850 evo raid 0 raptor 10k blueray something EK Supremecy Evo 
CoolingMonitorMonitorKeyboard
EK 780-FC HOF asus pg279 Asus pg279 Corsair Strafe RGB 
PowerCaseMouseAudio
Cooler Master V1200 Platinum  Corsair Carbide 760T Corsair Scimitar Sound Blaster 3D recon 
  hide details  
Reply
post #7 of 12
Quote:
Originally Posted by DRKreiger View Post

what about a thick radiator in push or pull only??
Or run a slim profile to run push/pull??

Both variants of 140x3 420mm radiators

Thicker radiator for sure.
post #8 of 12
Quote:
Originally Posted by mtrapuzz View Post

Thicker radiator for sure.
I would say just the opposite...

I can not find the right article atm, but let me quote Martin:
Quote:
Pretty much any slim radiator in push plus pull will perform better than a more thick radiator with just one set of fans.

Or here: http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/answers/id-2021911/thick-rads-thin-rads.html#12659414
Quote:
30mm thick 240 rad provides 146 watts of cooling
45mm thick 240 rad provides 148 watts of cooling
60mm thick 240 rad provides 152 watts of cooling
86mm thick 240 rad provides 159 watts of cooling

And especially if you want a quiet setup, push/pull will let you have good cooling with fans running more slowly that a fan alone.
Centurion1
(8 items)
 
 
MiniCube
(11 items)
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Pentium4 Northwood MSI 865PE NEO2-S Gainward GeForce 7600 Golden Sample 256 MB AGP8X Corsair TwinX 2x 1GB DDR PC3200 
CoolingOSPowerCase
Thermalright XP-90 + Noiseblocker SE2 92mm Win2000 Tagan TG380 Dual Fan Active PFC CoolerMaster Centurion1 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Delidded Ivy Bridge i5 3570K @4.7GHz Asrock Z77E-ITX iGPU HD4000 G.SKILL Ares Series 2x 8GB 1866MHz CL10-11-10-2N 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
OCZ Agility 3 120GB Samsung 840 Series 250GB Samsung SE-218BB external DVD/RW Noctua NH-C14 
OSMonitorPowerCase
Windows 7 Ultimate x64 Philips 220CW Silverstone SFX 300W Silverstone Sugo SG05B 
Mouse
Rapoo 7600 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel i5-5675C 4.4GHz Asus Z97I-Plus ITX Iris Pro Graphics 6200 Crucial Ballistix Sport VLP (2x 8GB) 
Hard DriveHard DriveCoolingOS
Adata Premier Pro SP900 128GB SATA M.2 2280 KingFast 512GB mSATA BeQuiet Dark Rock TF CPU cooler Windows 7 Pro 
MonitorPowerCase
LG 29UM67-P 29" UltraWide 250W FSP FlexATX 80PLUS Bronze Jonsbo case V2 Black 
  hide details  
Reply
Centurion1
(8 items)
 
 
MiniCube
(11 items)
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Pentium4 Northwood MSI 865PE NEO2-S Gainward GeForce 7600 Golden Sample 256 MB AGP8X Corsair TwinX 2x 1GB DDR PC3200 
CoolingOSPowerCase
Thermalright XP-90 + Noiseblocker SE2 92mm Win2000 Tagan TG380 Dual Fan Active PFC CoolerMaster Centurion1 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Delidded Ivy Bridge i5 3570K @4.7GHz Asrock Z77E-ITX iGPU HD4000 G.SKILL Ares Series 2x 8GB 1866MHz CL10-11-10-2N 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
OCZ Agility 3 120GB Samsung 840 Series 250GB Samsung SE-218BB external DVD/RW Noctua NH-C14 
OSMonitorPowerCase
Windows 7 Ultimate x64 Philips 220CW Silverstone SFX 300W Silverstone Sugo SG05B 
Mouse
Rapoo 7600 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel i5-5675C 4.4GHz Asus Z97I-Plus ITX Iris Pro Graphics 6200 Crucial Ballistix Sport VLP (2x 8GB) 
Hard DriveHard DriveCoolingOS
Adata Premier Pro SP900 128GB SATA M.2 2280 KingFast 512GB mSATA BeQuiet Dark Rock TF CPU cooler Windows 7 Pro 
MonitorPowerCase
LG 29UM67-P 29" UltraWide 250W FSP FlexATX 80PLUS Bronze Jonsbo case V2 Black 
  hide details  
Reply
post #9 of 12
Quote:
Originally Posted by mtrapuzz View Post

Thicker radiator for sure.

With the right rad choice, this is absolutely the case.

Quote:
Originally Posted by DRKreiger View Post

what about a thick radiator in push or pull only??
Or run a slim profile to run push/pull??

Both variants of 140x3 420mm radiators

The answers you seek are here - http://www.xtremerigs.net/2015/02/11/radiator-round-2015/5/
This test uses current rads, not five year old models, and not limited to a single mfg.

First thing you will notice is that going push/pull on slim rads does very little except make more noise. Despite that user who says that he dropped his temps twenty degrees by going push/pull on a 30mm thick rad....that isn't reality. Push/pull becomes increasingly more effective as the rad gets thicker and/or denser.

Second, you will see that the top tier slim rads will hand with the thick rads at lower rpm. As rpm increases, so does the difference in performance.



post #10 of 12
Quote:
Originally Posted by ciarlatano View Post

The answers you seek are here - http://www.xtremerigs.net/2015/02/11/radiator-round-2015/5/
This test uses current rads, not five year old models, and not limited to a single mfg.
That's the one, good find!

There is even an update to this review: http://www.xtremerigs.net/2015/02/20/pushpull-radiator-setups-learned-stop-worry-love-fans-less-noise/
Its conclusion could not be clearer:
Quote:
– Push/Pull is quieter for the same performance

– Push/Pull performs better for the same fan speed

– Push/Pull can perform just as well in the same total space (in tight spaces though you will still be limited to push only)

– Push/Pull can (but not always) perform better for less $$$

If you are currently running one set of fans then you will get real value by adding some more.
If you’re building a system then it’s worth making push/pull work even if it means getting a slimmer radiator.

In a month or so I am going to be ready verifying this on a Magicool G2 slim in push/pull vs pull only.
Centurion1
(8 items)
 
 
MiniCube
(11 items)
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Pentium4 Northwood MSI 865PE NEO2-S Gainward GeForce 7600 Golden Sample 256 MB AGP8X Corsair TwinX 2x 1GB DDR PC3200 
CoolingOSPowerCase
Thermalright XP-90 + Noiseblocker SE2 92mm Win2000 Tagan TG380 Dual Fan Active PFC CoolerMaster Centurion1 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Delidded Ivy Bridge i5 3570K @4.7GHz Asrock Z77E-ITX iGPU HD4000 G.SKILL Ares Series 2x 8GB 1866MHz CL10-11-10-2N 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
OCZ Agility 3 120GB Samsung 840 Series 250GB Samsung SE-218BB external DVD/RW Noctua NH-C14 
OSMonitorPowerCase
Windows 7 Ultimate x64 Philips 220CW Silverstone SFX 300W Silverstone Sugo SG05B 
Mouse
Rapoo 7600 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel i5-5675C 4.4GHz Asus Z97I-Plus ITX Iris Pro Graphics 6200 Crucial Ballistix Sport VLP (2x 8GB) 
Hard DriveHard DriveCoolingOS
Adata Premier Pro SP900 128GB SATA M.2 2280 KingFast 512GB mSATA BeQuiet Dark Rock TF CPU cooler Windows 7 Pro 
MonitorPowerCase
LG 29UM67-P 29" UltraWide 250W FSP FlexATX 80PLUS Bronze Jonsbo case V2 Black 
  hide details  
Reply
Centurion1
(8 items)
 
 
MiniCube
(11 items)
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Pentium4 Northwood MSI 865PE NEO2-S Gainward GeForce 7600 Golden Sample 256 MB AGP8X Corsair TwinX 2x 1GB DDR PC3200 
CoolingOSPowerCase
Thermalright XP-90 + Noiseblocker SE2 92mm Win2000 Tagan TG380 Dual Fan Active PFC CoolerMaster Centurion1 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Delidded Ivy Bridge i5 3570K @4.7GHz Asrock Z77E-ITX iGPU HD4000 G.SKILL Ares Series 2x 8GB 1866MHz CL10-11-10-2N 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
OCZ Agility 3 120GB Samsung 840 Series 250GB Samsung SE-218BB external DVD/RW Noctua NH-C14 
OSMonitorPowerCase
Windows 7 Ultimate x64 Philips 220CW Silverstone SFX 300W Silverstone Sugo SG05B 
Mouse
Rapoo 7600 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel i5-5675C 4.4GHz Asus Z97I-Plus ITX Iris Pro Graphics 6200 Crucial Ballistix Sport VLP (2x 8GB) 
Hard DriveHard DriveCoolingOS
Adata Premier Pro SP900 128GB SATA M.2 2280 KingFast 512GB mSATA BeQuiet Dark Rock TF CPU cooler Windows 7 Pro 
MonitorPowerCase
LG 29UM67-P 29" UltraWide 250W FSP FlexATX 80PLUS Bronze Jonsbo case V2 Black 
  hide details  
Reply
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:
  Return Home
  Back to Forum: Water Cooling
Overclock.net › Forums › Cooling › Water Cooling › help choosing some parts.