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    4.7ghz 1.328v 5960x
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    4.4ghz 1.376v 6900k
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post #1 of 11
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Hi guys, bit of a dilemma here. I have the option to get a 4.7ghz 5960x at 1.328v for a pretty good price (£680) which is really tempting. However, i was originally planning on buying a silicon lottery 6900k that does 4.4ghz but considering the price difference (6900k is £930, £250 more expensive) im not sure.

i feel like my water loop could take the 5960x further seeng as i have 2 360's and 2 240's, and the price difference could get me a new ssd...

Any advice?

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post #2 of 11
I say the 5960x because it is both cheaper and has a better overclock then the 6900k, the performance difference is ungodly minimal and honestly the 6900k would be slower in single threaded performance, multi threaded would be equal if not the 5960 winning due to the overclock. there are zero other differences performance wise to justify spending more money for the 6900k. And your loop shouldnt have any issues cooling it, plenty of rad space. hope this helps.
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post #3 of 11
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Thank you. Only thing I can think of is the 6900k having a better imc, most 5960x tend to not go much above 3000 and I'm a little worried I'll have to downclock my ram to get it to run the 32gb frown.gif
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post #4 of 11
you are only running 3200 so if you had to downclock it wouldnt be a major difference, but you can just hope really, it overclocks good maybe it can also hold the memory good too. praying makes the world go round? xD
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post #5 of 11
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Originally Posted by jdc122 View Post

Hi guys, bit of a dilemma here. I have the option to get a 4.7ghz 5960x at 1.328v for a pretty good price (£680) which is really tempting. However, i was originally planning on buying a silicon lottery 6900k that does 4.4ghz but considering the price difference (6900k is £930, £250 more expensive) im not sure.

i feel like my water loop could take the 5960x further seeng as i have 2 360's and 2 240's, and the price difference could get me a new ssd...

Any advice?

For the rest of my rig im running;
X99 soc champion
TridentZ 32gb 4x8 3200cl14
Sli 980ti
1200w slient pro gold


I originally was thinking Broadwell-E was the way to go. But after getting a 4.4ghz binned 6800K and planning to sell my 5960X; figuring the 6800K with 4.4ghz was as fast in multi-threaded workloads as my 5960X was at stock 3.5ghz (6800K 4.4ghz = ~1,361 points in cinebench 15. 3.5ghz 5960X = 1,350; ~1,400 if i raise cache; so pretty similar) but i assumed the 6800K (and BW-E in general) would have higher SINGLE core performance which would make it more like a compromise between a 6700K and 5960X, giving "best of both worlds" (i.e. fastest single core perf possible for gaming, but still 6 cores and just under 1,400 cinebench MULTI core scores)

Unfortunately, i found that NO amount of voltage can safely hit 4.5ghz even though i can hit 4.4ghz at ~1.355v (even 1.515v isn't enough!) and at 4.4ghz i only get 183-184 points in single core cinebench, which is the same as my 5960X at 4.6ghz gets. So the main advantage i figured the 6800K had over my 5960X is gone.


Now, the 6900K is OBVIOUSLY different, but not that much. You are simply getting a nealry identical multi threaded performance (if your 5960X hits 4.7ghz i imagine the 5960X might actually score HIGHER in multi thread though) and nearly identical single threaded performance as well.

Plus, on Broadwell-E your IMC is significantly worse in general. Most people have trouble hitting more than 3000mhz on their RAM, and can't get over 3.7-3.8ghz on their cache/uncore; compared to 5960X where you can get 3600mhz no problem usually on RAM, and my 5960X gets 4.3ghz cache/uncore with ease on a Rampage V Extreme and the new Rampage V Edition 10 as well.

TL:DR = They're literally basically the exact same. A 4.7ghz 5960X will likely slightly outspeed a 4.4ghz 6900K; i'd go for 5960X. I'm likely sending my 6800K back and just keeping my 4.6ghz 5960X.
Edited by DarkIdeals - 7/8/16 at 11:18pm
 
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post #6 of 11
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Plus, on Broadwell-E your IMC is significantly worse in general. Most people have trouble hitting more than 3000mhz on their RAM, and can't get over 3.7-3.8ghz on their cache/uncore; compared to 5960X where you can get 3600mhz no problem usually on RAM, and my 5960X gets 4.3ghz cache/uncore with ease on a Rampage V Extreme and the new Rampage V Edition 10 as well.

This is untrue. The best of the best 5960X could only do 3400MHz on DDR4, the only validation of anything more than that has been by G.skill with 3600MHz on Broadwell-E. I think Broadwell-E may have the potential to have a better IMC, but you're still stuck with the silicon lottery on the memory controller.
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post #7 of 11
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This is untrue. The best of the best 5960X could only do 3400MHz on DDR4, the only validation of anything more than that has been by G.skill with 3600MHz on Broadwell-E. I think Broadwell-E may have the potential to have a better IMC, but you're still stuck with the silicon lottery on the memory controller.

True but OP is only running a 3200mhz kit so while it is at the mercy of the silicon lotto he has a very good chance of being ok. worst case scenario you have to do 3000 but personally i think thats perfectly fine, im not crazy over ram speeds, personal preference and such. haha.
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post #8 of 11
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just an update guys, been offered a golden handpicked 5960x over on hwbot, does 4.5ghz on air, 1.14v, and scales all the way to 5.9ghz on ln2... think thats swung it tbh.
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post #9 of 11
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Originally Posted by jdc122 View Post

just an update guys, been offered a golden handpicked 5960x over on hwbot, does 4.5ghz on air, 1.14v, and scales all the way to 5.9ghz on ln2... think thats swung it tbh.

You're spoilt for choice smile.gif

I'd go with the 5960x and get another ssd thumb.gif
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post #10 of 11
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Yeah that settles it I think. I don't suppose any of you want my 4790k then? Hah.
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