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Indeed. And it's nothing new, Blizzard has profited a LOT from hackers especially with WoW. At some point it was so profitable to raise toons and sell accounts on eBay that it would more than offset the cost of getting a few accounts banned here and there.
how do you measure this profit from hackers? how do you know that profit gained from hackers wasn't nullified by regular people who got fed up by hackers and quit the game? why are you comparing leveling up wow accounts to hacking, most ppl who leveled up and sold accounts haven't hacked in their life. you are mixing and confusing many things here.
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Creator is in Germany, lawsuit is in California. What is jurisdiction again?

US servers?
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how do you measure this profit from hackers? how do you know that profit gained from hackers wasn't nullified by regular people who got fed up by hackers and quit the game? why are you comparing leveling up wow accounts to hacking, most ppl who leveled up and sold accounts haven't hacked in their life. you are mixing and confusing many things here.
If they ban in waves they could me look at new players/timeline and see the difference.
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how do you measure this profit from hackers? how do you know that profit gained from hackers wasn't nullified by regular people who got fed up by hackers and quit the game? why are you comparing leveling up wow accounts to hacking, most ppl who leveled up and sold accounts haven't hacked in their life. you are mixing and confusing many things here.

No one knows precisely how much is gained from hackers and leveling up WoW and selling them by using a bot is a form of hacking.....Blizzard profits from the subscription from that bot...while the "hacker " profits from selling the account via ebay...only one getting screwed is the player base...
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Indeed. And it's nothing new, Blizzard has profited a LOT from hackers especially with WoW. At some point it was so profitable to raise toons and sell accounts on eBay that it would more than offset the cost of getting a few accounts banned here and there.
how do you measure this profit from hackers? how do you know that profit gained from hackers wasn't nullified by regular people who got fed up by hackers and quit the game? why are you comparing leveling up wow accounts to hacking, most ppl who leveled up and sold accounts haven't hacked in their life. you are mixing and confusing many things here.

No I'm not. It's a known fact that most account that were powerleveled back in the days in WoW were done so while using bots and other hacks (especially for grinding pvp back then), also, lmry multiboxing was against the EULA terms back then.

As for how you can measure it, well you take a look at Blizzard's own numbers.
When they state they've banned 200k accounts but that quarter-to-quarter game sales numbers are on the rise by ridiculous amounts, while it being a time when most players were taking breaks before a new expansion, one does not need to be a genius to do the maths. I mean it's pretty hard when you play a game everyday to not notice when the server population is taking a big hit. And it's pretty easy to check the amount of forum threads about server population, no matter if it's about your own server or not. Yet at the same time the amount of game sales and subscribers is on the rise? riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight.

But then again, having actually made quite some money while in college selling WoW accounts (because it's actually legal here in France provided you follow one very simple rule), I've come across some people who did use such "third party tools" to boost their powerleveling revenues. So yeah I do know what I'm talking about. So yeah, I am comparing leveling up wow accounts to hacking because a good chunk of them powerleveled accounts were done by using bots and hacks, no matter what you say. And though you are totally right in saying that some people got fed up with hackers and left the game, sure some did, but not anywhere near enough for it to offset the sales of new game copies. I mean remember, it's not like 100k players quit WoW on the very same day exclusively because of a hack/exploit. Sure there might have been a few severe issues where 1000 players quit but it's not even in the top 5 reasons of why people quit WoW.
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Instead of wasting time and money suing people, Blizzard should invest the resources into developing games with better anti-cheating systems which aren't easy to exploit. There is no way that this law suit is going to be beneficiary for Blizzard.
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This isn't counter strike.


I don't see why stopping cheaters is so hard when it is much more obvious in a game like this
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This isn't counter strike.


I don't see why stopping cheaters is so hard when it is much more obvious in a game like this

Would you please elaborate on what makes it more obvious?
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Should be focusing on making their software more cheat/exploit resistant than throwing money at lawyers to go after cheat creators.
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Should be focusing on making their software more cheat/exploit resistant than throwing money at lawyers to go after cheat creators.

They must have hired a few former apple employees if the was their reaction to begin with....
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