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But is it Waterproof?

Definitely need a waterproof/stain resistant mouse surface. Not one of those all absorbent cloth junk, that needs to be washed every other week or it stinks like a rotting corpse.

Where is that type of Mouse Surface for Hardcore Players questionmark.gif .

I decided against the UC50 due to this, I didn't want to experience that same dust-attraction that my Qck+ has, really ruins it after a few weeks.


I'll have a look at the Artisan pads though from what I've heard they seem quite niché and lacking durability.

G-SR i'm considering, heard the new BenQ black version isn't as good as the Zowie one though
Edited by Jonny321321 - 7/10/16 at 4:51pm
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post #12 of 24
Artisan Hien - Mid.

Durability is not an issue on the Hien pads. Artisan have alot of surfaces. Shiden and Shiden-kai wear down. Especially Shiden-kai. I've tried every artisan pad. Shiden-kai's are like butter when fresh, but aren't a standard pad for most players, and they wear down and the tracking isn't the best.

Hien-mid is a solid pad. Glide is consistent and doesn't wear out. Glide is at about an 8/10. Tracking is 9/10 on 3090, which is probably the most problematic surface sensor you will every come across.

Really good hybrid and unique surface.

Edit: Purchase direct from Artisan. They updated the Hien and their properietary layers. If you purchase through Amazon you will probably get someone selling an old Hien. Surface is different and layers are different.
Edited by czerro - 7/10/16 at 5:21pm
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I'll have a look at the Artisan pads though from what I've heard they seem quite niché and lacking durability.

G-SR i'm considering, heard the new BenQ black version isn't as good as the Zowie one though

Yeah, if any one of those Companies actually made some 900 x 400mm Desk Pads then I would buy them. Had enough of the tiny mouse pads, no room for them in my life anymore.

GO BIG or go home yessir.gif .
post #14 of 24
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Artisan Hien - Mid.

Durability is not an issue on the Hien pads. Artisan have alot of surfaces. Shiden and Shiden-kai wear down. Especially Shiden-kai. I've tried every artisan pad. Shiden-kai's are like butter when fresh, but aren't a standard pad for most players, and they wear down and the tracking isn't the best.

Hien-mid is a solid pad. Glide is consistent and doesn't wear out. Glide is at about an 8/10. Tracking is 9/10 on 3090, which is probably the most problematic surface sensor you will every come across.

Really good hybrid and unique surface.

Edit: Purchase direct from Artisan. They updated the Hien and their properietary layers. If you purchase through Amazon you will probably get someone selling an old Hien. Surface is different and layers are different.

Thanks for the summary, very helpful. Kind of stuck between this and the hayate otsu. I'm having difficulty choosing.

This person preferred the otsu: http://www.overclock.net/t/1566661/artisan-hien-to-hayate-otsu-experience#post_24328185
They describe the hien as 'abrasive' and '[comparatively to Otsu] plasticy' would you consider this to be true? Parts of my arm will be resting against the pad (and the right corner of my palm like this poster) and I don't want to experience friction burn from the surface. According to a thread on the latest revision of the Hien, this iteration doesn't have the same level of abrasive characteristics that the previous Hiens did.

Initially I had a better impression of the Otsu (recommended from the poster before you) but I can't tell if the surface will be too slick, thus having my hand slipping and sliding unable to hold a position properly (such as what happens on my G440 hard pad to the point of not being able to use it).

So yeah, really a face off between the Otsu Soft and Hien Mid in terms of the Artisans. I do like the look of their quality though and they both look excellent.
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post #15 of 24
the Artisan pads are pretty bad in the dust-attraction regard, I would not get the Hayate or Hien for that reason. you really need to maintain them quite often. especially bad if you have a pet.

G-TFX has become my favourite due to its overall qualities - not super smooth but easy to keep clean, spill resistant, good static friction, okay dynamic friction (stopping can be a little tricky for the first few days) etc.
not the best I've used but it's starting to get to that point where compromises must be made frown.gif
post #16 of 24
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Thanks for the summary, very helpful. Kind of stuck between this and the hayate otsu. I'm having difficulty choosing.

This person preferred the otsu: http://www.overclock.net/t/1566661/artisan-hien-to-hayate-otsu-experience#post_24328185
They describe the hien as 'abrasive' and '[comparatively to Otsu] plasticy' would you consider this to be true? Parts of my arm will be resting against the pad (and the right corner of my palm like this poster) and I don't want to experience friction burn from the surface. According to a thread on the latest revision of the Hien, this iteration doesn't have the same level of abrasive characteristics that the previous Hiens did.

Initially I had a better impression of the Otsu (recommended from the poster before you) but I can't tell if the surface will be too slick, thus having my hand slipping and sliding unable to hold a position properly (such as what happens on my G440 hard pad to the point of not being able to use it).

So yeah, really a face off between the Otsu Soft and Hien Mid in terms of the Artisans. I do like the look of their quality though and they both look excellent.

Artisan makes fine pads...they don't make fine websites. Their descriptions are off. Otsu is essentially a nice cloth pad. It's not a hybrid. It's nice for what it is. Hien is 'abrasive'. It's a hybrid surface. Glide is very high, the texture is optimal for skates to run across...but your soft human hands will feel the texture. Low resistance with high control. You really can't go wrong with a Hien. Otsu if you really want that softpad...but there are talents and qck's more easily available...
post #17 of 24
I'm not a mousepad expert, but I have a Roccat Taito and it's pretty nice. Soft, cloth, but kinda synthetic and faster than the QCK. The only complaints I have are: rough edges, the logo (which has a slightly different grip) and the smell which took a while to go away.

http://www.roccat.org/en-XX/Products/Gaming-Mousepads/Taito-Series/Taito/
post #18 of 24
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But is it Waterproof?

Definitely need a waterproof/stain resistant mouse surface. Not one of those all absorbent cloth junk, that needs to be washed every other week or it stinks like a rotting corpse.

Where is that type of Mouse Surface for Hardcore Players questionmark.gif .

As far as I can tell he didn't specify waterproof. If you machine wash it, and put a little softener in it, it will not absorb dirt as easily. Mine last months without washing. I just shake them properly and sometimes use a clean painters brush to get some stuff off of it.
post #19 of 24
The Alioth is like a more consistent and slightly faster QCK+. I prefer QCK+ surface due to speed; but Alioth is very consistent and stays clean. Build quality is good and it's waterproof. Might fit your bill. Alioth desk mat was pretty dope.

https://www.amazon.com/Mionix-Alioth-Stitched-Microfiber-MNX-04-25005-G/dp/B0163STUBM
Edited by ralloff - 7/11/16 at 4:04am
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The Alioth is a like a more consistent and slightly faster QCK+. I prrefer QCK+ surface due to speed; but Alioth it is very consistent and stays clean. Build quality is good and it's waterproof. Might fit your bill. Alioth desk mat was pretty dope.

Thanks for that, what matters is that it is indeed waterproof, meaning none absorbent cheers.gif .

Shall be ordering it off their website.
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