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Hi,

I'm trying to get Crossfire enabled on my 290X's. I was running 16.3.2, but couldn't see the option to enable Crossfire. I updated to 16.7.2, and I still cannot find the option.

I think I am going to the right location... Gaming > Global Settings...

On Windows 10 64 bit. On a fresh reformat.

I can only see 1 card in Device manager.
     
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I should also note that when I did the clean reformat, both cards were appearing in Device Manager.

Steam hardware survey can see both cards.
Edited by xxicrimsonixx - 7/9/16 at 11:52am
     
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Alright, I kept clicking Scan for Hardware Changes in Device Manager, and nothing would work. I opened the case and pushed the card more "in", restarted, and scanned for hardware changes again. It found the second card. I restarted again, and now I can see that Crossfire is enabled in the settings.

I also ended up reinstalling the drivers.
     
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When i update my driver on my crossfire 290s i always disable crossfire first. I never ever use DDU. I see that AMD included the uninstall driver feature in Crimsom now. I used that, rebooted, then ran 16.7.2 again to install. After reboot, Crimson automatically enabled crossfire.

Also, I unchecked Radeon settings in msconfig prior to reboot.




There are times when i had to manually enable crossfire.
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Originally Posted by rdr09 View Post

When i update my driver on my crossfire 290s i always disable crossfire first. I never ever use DDU. I see that AMD included the uninstall driver feature in Crimsom now. I used that, rebooted, then ran 16.7.2 again to install. After reboot, Crimson automatically enabled crossfire.

Also, I unchecked Radeon settings in msconfig prior to reboot.




There are times when i had to manually enable crossfire.

Couple quick questions:

1) Is DDU not compatible with Radeon Settings? Wondering why you never use it. I use multiple approaches when necessary

2) Is your driver in Crimson reading as 16.7.2 in every tab or, like me, is it reading 16.7.3 in some tabs in Crimson while reading 16.7.2 in others?

3) So unchecking Radeon Settings from msconfig means its not booting at start up. Is that for the first reboot only? Or do you leave it like that?

4) Are you removing anything leftover after your uninstall?

5) and are you getting any downclocking or locked FPS rates?

This latest driver is having the same problems the very first Crimson release had. If I wipe everything down to registry entries and install an older driver (16.3.2 or even the 16.1 Non-WHQL- ones that worked perfectly for a long time), it is still being read as Crimson 16.7.3/16.7.2 depending on what tab is open in Crimson.

This latest edition WHQL driver has locked every game to 60fps with the exception of Mad Max. It is also downclocking my 290x's. I have to run Clockblocker and it still tries to force it down.

In addition, making any changes in AB will be reflected in Crimson. However, when I hit Reset in AB the changes dont happen. I have to reset in Crimson, force close Crimson, then reboot the computer. If not, they will stay at whatever they were set to in AB regardless of how many times I try to reset them.

Ive never let AB apply OC at start up. Its always reverted back to stock even if I forget to hit "reset" before shutting down. Now, if I dont do the process above it will stay at my setting.

Normally I wouldnt care if I could just roll back the driver. Thats proving to be impossible.

Im not the only one getting these problems either. Check it out -> http://www.overclock.net/t/1606791/16-7-3-driver-locked-fps-0-gpu-usage/0_30#post_25380145



Performance is terrible. I know Witcher 3 isnt a good example but in Fullscreen I was getting 90-144fps with CF. Single card was 65-90fps prior to this driver. Now, single card get 20-30fps, stutters and staggers all over. CF is locked to 60fps and the dips dip low into the 15-20 range. So far only game that I have that works seamlessly and gives me my 144fps is Mad Max.
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@DM,

1) Is DDU not compatible with Radeon Settings? Wondering why you never use it. I use multiple approaches when necessary

I just don't use it. I have Win7 that has not been updated for about a year now. To me, it seems Win updates has a hand in screwing up stuff. I've been using CCC (13 Driver) to uninstall my current driver. But, like i said, I noticed Crimson has the uninstall feature included now. First few Crimson it wasn't.

2) Is your driver in Crimson reading as 16.7.2 in every tab or, like me, is it reading 16.7.3 in some tabs in Crimson while reading 16.7.2 in others?

I only upgraded to 16.7.2 from 16.4 recently and only place i see it shown as 16.7.2 is in Crimson. Trixx and Afterburner show 15.8. lol Not a big deal really.

3) So unchecking Radeon Settings from msconfig means its not booting at start up. Is that for the first reboot only? Or do you leave it like that?

Yes, I uncheck Radeon settings in msconfig right after driver install and just before reboot. I use hdd and it helps to minimize time for startup. Also, i just want to make sure it does not conflict with anything in Windows.

4) Are you removing anything leftover after your uninstall?

No, i just let Crimson uninstall feature do all that. BTW, i do not install Evolved 'cause i don't use it.

5) and are you getting any downclocking or locked FPS rates?

I test my gpus with Heaven 4.0 (at least 1440) bench to make sure crossfire works/ gpus are going full tilt when loaded and no downclocking. The Core Clocks should be straight lines when loaded. If not, then there is a problem. Maybe disabling and enabling ulps might do the trick or disabling and enabling crossfire. Or both.

It should look like this . . .



Here is how i disable ulps, which i set a long time ago. Since i installed that version of AB.

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Thanks. I dont install Evolved either. For disabling ULPS I usually do it through the AB like you and then I follow @BradleyW 's guide to disable the rest in regedit. There are still active ULPS features by deafult that AB cant get to. Interestingly enough, I no longer have the Crossfire Enable/Disable button anymore. Doesnt matter what Crimson version I install.

And I had asked about what version Crimson was actually showing because even downloading 16.7.2 from AMD gets read as 16.7.3 in one part of crimson and in another tab was reading as 16.7.2 (as of date I posted questions) AB reads it as 16.7.3 as well. However, using AMD Uninstall then rolling back to earlier drivers still has AB reading it as 16.7.3 even after wiping AB and reinstalling. Odd.
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Thanks. I dont install Evolved either. For disabling ULPS I usually do it through the AB like you and then I follow @BradleyW 's guide to disable the rest in regedit. There are still active ULPS features by deafult that AB cant get to. Interestingly enough, I no longer have the Crossfire Enable/Disable button anymore. Doesnt matter what Crimson version I install.

And I had asked about what version Crimson was actually showing because even downloading 16.7.2 from AMD gets read as 16.7.3 in one part of crimson and in another tab was reading as 16.7.2 (as of date I posted questions) AB reads it as 16.7.3 as well. However, using AMD Uninstall then rolling back to earlier drivers still has AB reading it as 16.7.3 even after wiping AB and reinstalling. Odd.

See that is something I will never do - mess with regedit. such a wuss. I do it to unpark cores on my cpu but other than . . . nah.

Anyways, I recently went from Win7 to 10 on my cloned hdd with 16.1 Driver still. After the update, Win 10 installed AMD Firepro driver. lol

Good thing I have 16.7.2 in a usb, so I installed that. This morning I installed the latest GPUZ and now both Crimson and GPUZ show 16.7.2 . . .




Loving Win 10. Never really had issue with this OS even during the beta.

For your issue, I suggest a fresh Win install. And, not mess with the registry.redface.gif
Edited by rdr09 - 7/30/16 at 9:09pm
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