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Did you turn off spread spectrum? Your BCLK is showing 103 when it should stay at 100. That might be causing instability.

And I think you should try your ram on 1600 mhz auto timings at 1.5v. Dial in your cpu overclock and worry about ram speeds later.
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i ran the test with above settings and primetest 95 couldn't even run for 5 mins.
SS of cpuz and realtemp attached ClipboardImage.jpg 112k .jpg file

From the screenshot, it looks like you're overclocking with the BUS clock as well as the CPU multiplier. From what you've written in your first post I'm sure you have already, but just in case, check your BUS clock is at the stock 100MHz in your BIOS, and just change your multiplier. That might be the source of your instability.

Your temperatures look fine, your voltage is not too high, you could go a little higher, but apart from making sure your RAM is at its normal timings I can't think of much else that could be wrong.

Aside from all that, your case looks like it could do with a clean. It's accumulated a lot of dust, and while that most likely is not the cause of your instability, it doesn't hurt to clean out your components.


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just shared image of my pc and the settings i am currently using

 

That dust could be at least HALF the cause of your high temps.

 

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I think I understand what you're saying, I believe he meant to say maximum voltage specified by intel in his video? ie The VID your particular cpu comes with +/- offset + llc settings gives you a readout in cpu-z that shouldn't be higher than the maximum voltage specified by intel.

Here's another video explaining LLC. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z8nFdFpuVBg

I remember playing around with LLC before and didn't like going past high because the voltage was way higher under load than what I expected it to be from my offset. In other words I wanted to have a voltage readout from cpu-z that is close to my CPU VID +/- offset, it just made it easier for me to find my OC.

I also agree with you guys definitely try lowering the ram settings.

 

The VID isn't a maximum voltage specification. It's just what the CPU is "saying" it should need in order to be stable at that clock and multiplier. You might notice that every clock and multiplier has its own VID.

 

Setting the LLC to High or Ultra High and getting the results you got tells me you were getting vRise, which usually happens to the Z77 chipset and newer chipsets. On Z68 and P67, Extreme is usually where vRise starts, with Ultra High usually just neutralizing vDroop.

 

LLC is fine, as long as you know how to use it for your motherboard. ;)

 

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i ran the test with above settings and primetest 95 couldn't even run for 5 mins.
SS of cpuz and realtemp attached ClipboardImage.jpg 112k .jpg file

 

Something isn't right. You should be getting a voltage that's much closer to 1.35V with your LLC set to Ultra High and your voltage set to 1.35V. Your BCLK is also at 103.02 MHz, when you have it set to 100 MHz. Usually, CPU Spread Spectrum being enabled is the culprit for the BCLK being off, but it usually results in 99.8 MHz.

 

Do you have ASUS AI Suite II installed? I am hoping that you don't.

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i don't know why it is showing blck 103..its definitely its set to 100 as i even uploaded SS before.

252.jpg 54k .jpg file


btw i am still confused confused about the ram settings.Should i use 10-12-12-31-2N (so, use 2 instead of 1)
ram.jpg 88k .jpg file

i did fresh install on windows 10..just few essential softwares nothing ASUS AI Suite II but msi afterburner for gpu.but that is mainly for controlling gpu fan speed..and gpu's aint Oc'ed either.

SO i just posting another shot from hwinfo...maybe u guys figure out something.

also whenever i start hwinfo i get this error hwerror.jpg 92k .jpg file
hwinfonall.jpg 285k .jpg file

and i also don't understand why cpuz is showing 1.272vcore when i set it 1.350
010.jpg 91k .jpg file

yes CPU Spread Spectrum was at auto which i now disabled it.
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yes i have changed ram setting to 1600mhz

dumpoflatestbSOD.txt 2k .txt file
here is dump of latest bsod which occored when i ran prime95 test for 5 mins.
Edited by iam1simpleguy - 7/10/16 at 12:29pm
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The VID isn't a maximum voltage specification. It's just what the CPU is "saying" it should need in order to be stable at that clock and multiplier. You might notice that every clock and multiplier has its own VID.

Setting the LLC to High or Ultra High and getting the results you got tells me you were getting vRise, which usually happens to the Z77 chipset and newer chipsets. On Z68 and P67, Extreme is usually where vRise starts, with Ultra High usually just neutralizing vDroop.

LLC is fine, as long as you know how to use it for your motherboard. wink.gif

Agreed, neutralizing vDroop without overshooting into vRise is what I was aiming for (without realizing it). Wish I understood this better when I was overclocking years ago, sure would have helped. Thanks for the explanation.
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i don't know why it is showing blck 103..its definitely its set to 100 as i even uploaded SS before.

After disabling cpu spread spectrum is your bclk fixed at 100 now? And do you still get a BSOD?
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am still confused confused about the ram settings.Should i use 10-12-12-31-2N (so, use 2 instead of 1)

For now I would suggest using auto timings at 1600mhz and 1.5v. After your overclock stabilizes you can go back and use those timings with 2133 mhz @ 1.60v.

For some reason your CPU-Z readout is wrong, the hwinfo is reading the correct 1.35v. I'm not sure why that is since I'm using the same version and mine reads fine.

I think all your problems will be solved soon, hang in there buddy. thumb.gif
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smile.gif hanging there:rolleyes:

yes even after disable spectrum i got bsod. so after that i stopped OCing as
i was waiting for you guys to reply...as im not sure what to do.should i increase the vcore or decrease?
and don't know why blck is showing 103 even after i load default settings in bios and check the cpuz..
means no settings change but still bus speed is 103 defaultsettings.jpg 57k .jpg file
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smile.gif hanging there:rolleyes:

yes even after disable spectrum i got bsod. so after that i stopped OCing as
i was waiting for you guys to reply...as im not sure what to do.should i increase the vcore or decrease?
and don't know why blck is showing 103 even after i load default settings in bios and check the cpuz..
means no settings change but still bus speed is 103 defaultsettings.jpg 57k .jpg file

I'm looking at your manual online (http://dlcdnet.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb/LGA1155/P8Z68-V_PRO/E6696_P8Z68-V_PRO.pdf).
On page 73 it shows Ai Overclock Tuner on Auto, and it sets the BCLK to 103. Are you 100% certain you are using manual and 100?
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Is your TPU switch engaged? I think you need to check that. If it's engaged, then auto-overclocking will occur and you'll have problems trying to do it manually. So, to find out if it's engaged, just move it to its other position (I think it lacks an "on/off" printed marking - you just move the switch and take a guess lol).

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I'm looking at your manual online (http://dlcdnet.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb/LGA1155/P8Z68-V_PRO/E6696_P8Z68-V_PRO.pdf).
On page 73 it shows Ai Overclock Tuner on Auto, and it sets the BCLK to 103. Are you 100% certain you are using manual and 100?
252.jpg 54k .jpg file

i already posted this pic before and yes its manual not auto..
and yes TPU switch is enabled:rolleyes:
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Okay guys,i guess i'm back in business.I disabled the TPU and now it shows bus speed 100mhz redface.gif
thx two cables?
right now i am having 1.270 as core voltage? what u guys suggest? increase decrease ? and by how much?
any other changes in other settings?
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