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The 34" will definitely have higher response times than the 144hz ones, and its also not really being marketed towards gaming. The 144hz ones are though and they're saying 1ms which in itself is strange because that only is ever really marketed when talking about a TN. Now i doubt they've found some sort of miracle workaround to make VA as fast as TN, but i willing to bet they figured out a way to make it a whole lot better than what we're used to. Its a give and take scenario, in this case you may be giving up lightning fast response times to just fast response times, but you're also getting a huge amount of contrast in return that will dramatically increase the IQ.

The 1ms spec is due to the optional impulse scanning (strobing). 1ms MPRT, Motion Picture Response Time i.e. how sharp it will be in motion, not the pixel response times.
The GtG is not advertised but it is probably 4ms like most other VA panels. And these specs are always to be taken with a grain of salt anyway.
Edited by Sedolf - 10/9/16 at 3:47am
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I can't wait to see a test on the 34" model.

Right now I'm on the Dell U2515H, according to TFT Central it has a G2G average of 8.2ms and an input lag of 13.7ms.

Could Samsung reach these values with the 34" model or should I better not get my hopes too high? I will be all over this thing if it offers similar response times to my Dell U2515H but I don't want to pay 1000€+ to get a slower panel. Don't want to try my luck in the WQHD/IPS/144Hz panel lottery either.

When could the first reviews with measured response times surface?

Ultra wide + VA + 100hz + decent resolution + huge curve + decent response times..make it happen Samsung!
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The 34" will definitely have higher response times than the 144hz ones, and its also not really being marketed towards gaming. The 144hz ones are though and they're saying 1ms which in itself is strange because that only is ever really marketed when talking about a TN. Now i doubt they've found some sort of miracle workaround to make VA as fast as TN, but i willing to bet they figured out a way to make it a whole lot better than what we're used to. Its a give and take scenario, in this case you may be giving up lightning fast response times to just fast response times, but you're also getting a huge amount of contrast in return that will dramatically increase the IQ.

These monitors are also packing quantum dot which gives you a richer fuller color space, something people are overlooking i think with these monitors.

lol wut?

The 34" is clearly being marketed for gaming. Why would anybody want a 100hz if not for gaming? Specially considering they already have an outstanding 60hz 34" VA in the market.

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The 1ms spec is due to the optional impulse scanning (strobing). 1ms MPRT, Motion Picture Response Time i.e. how sharp it will be in motion, not the pixel response times.
The GtG is not advertised but it is probably 4ms like most other VA panels. And these specs are always to be taken with a grain of salt anyway.

Raw response time is not that important, actually. What matters is that the response times are uniform and well below the required time to make the 144hz happen.

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I can't wait to see a test on the 34" model.

Right now I'm on the Dell U2515H, according to TFT Central it has a G2G average of 8.2ms and an input lag of 13.7ms.

Could Samsung reach these values with the 34" model or should I better not get my hopes too high? I will be all over this thing if it offers similar response times to my Dell U2515H but I don't want to pay 1000€+ to get a slower panel. Don't want to try my luck in the WQHD/IPS/144Hz panel lottery either.

When could the first reviews with measured response times surface?

Ultra wide + VA + 100hz + decent resolution + huge curve + decent response times..make it happen Samsung!

Reviews? Mmm lets see. The 24" is being released this month and we still have no review... and the 34" is being released in december. So... at least 2 months, I'd say.

I'm also looking at the 34" with interest (specially considering I already own a 21:9 monitor, and 24" would be rather small), but I want a good unit and will settle for a smaller one if needed. And the 24" seems to be REALLY good.
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After seeing Doom's Vulkan's 8x TSSAA and GTA V's TXAA (and, now, BF1's TAA), my "tolerance" for lower resolutions rose significantly.

Which is why i'm definitely buying the 24'' model. It's of no consequence if 4K 144 Hz VA monitors arrive next year because this one would just go to 2nd monitor duty at such point.

I mean, this monitor's proposition is excellent at its price, resolution being its minor fault; but that can be "remedied" somewhat, while bad viewing angles or glow can't. Then again, LG's new 144 Hz IPS monitors should also fix glow with the curvature, but then there's the grayish blacks.

I play mostly old games which have SSAA compatibility anyway, but the problem lies in newer games that aren't as nice as DOOM and GTA V and have terrible AA. GeDoSaTo will have to be my savior there.
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Found this on YouTube:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ore6DeSGLfQ

Pretty sure it's the 24" model in this thread beating out a BenQ 1MS display and I think some type of ViewSonic 4MS IPS? Looks like it's beating out the BenQ in regards to trailing/ghosting. thumb.gif
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Are they using blur reduction?
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Are they using blur reduction?
Camera detects BenQ's PWM at an angle.
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Found this on YouTube:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ore6DeSGLfQ

Pretty sure it's the 24" model in this thread beating out a BenQ 1MS display and I think some type of ViewSonic 4MS IPS? Looks like it's beating out the BenQ in regards to trailing/ghosting. thumb.gif

That's insane!
If the 34" is anything close to that I can die happy...if not I'm gonna pick the 24" one and still be happy enough.

But idk what to think of it, can a VA panel really have less ghosting than a TN? Sure it did in the video but idk, just sounds too good to be true.
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Well it's a Samsung video, so not really objective. They probably enabled the impulsive scanning for this test.
I don't believe the 34'' is gonna have the blur reduction, but at 100Hz it should still be possible, maybe Samsung finds time to implement it before launch.

Btw. the leftmost monitor is a BenQ XL2430Z, the rightmost is a Lenovo Y27 (which lacks blur reduction afaik and was set to highest OD)
Edited by Sedolf - 10/9/16 at 11:36am
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Well it's a Samsung video, so not really objective. They probably enabled the impulsive scanning for this test.
I don't believe the 34'' is gonna have the blur reduction, but at 100Hz it should still be possible, maybe Samsung finds time to implement it before launch.

Btw. the leftmost monitor is a BenQ XL2430Z, the rightmost is a Lenovo Y27 (which lacks blur reduction afaik and was set to highest OD)

The BenQ is pretty accurate and looks like the default. Was exactly the same type of blueish ghosting I had on my XL2411Z. You can see here also:

    
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