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I don't want to manipulate, but there is no way it uses the same panel. Even Samsung's own 27" is not VA.
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The soon-to-be released 27'' Samsung is VA too, but it's Freesync only. Easy assumption that it is the same panel as the Lenovo.

https://pcmonitors.info/samsung/samsung-c24fg70-144hz-curved-va-monitor-with-freesync/
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AOC also announced a few new VA monitors that are scheduled for release in the next two months.

Anything good? I think that includes the AUO based 3440 x 1440 144 Hz monitors.
 
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It seems many monitor manufacturers are now releasing new models with these samsung PVA Panels.
Even monitor manufacturers are hyped! Thing's about to get good!
    
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The AOC AG352UCG may look interesting. It features a curved VA 3.440 × 1.440 Panel with 100hz and G-sync and the announced MSRP in europe is "only" 900€, sounds almost like a bargain if you compare it to similar offers. rolleyes.gif
post #155 of 4216
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KXrMihxdlsE

http://rhyshan.com/480
This guy is doing some test with the C24FG70(he said it's better than his benq xl2420t)
Edited by handot - 10/11/16 at 6:53am
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I watched these videos, thank you for posting them. What i find curious is that you can see him browsing through the OSD on the c24fg70 several times, but there is no ULMB or low Blur option or whatever they may call it.

It seems to be completly missing from this model, maybe he is using an early review sample or am i missing something ?
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I watched these videos, thank you for posting them. What i find curious is that you can see him browsing through the OSD on the c24fg70 several times, but there is no ULMB or low Blur option or whatever they may call it.

It seems to be completly missing from this model, maybe he is using an early review sample or am i missing something ?
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Your source is not correct.

Of course the c27fg70 uses a PVA (samsung VA Panel) too (they clearly stated it during gamescon, IFA and in all their pressreleases).

Tftcentral already tweeted that the new acer z271 uses the same panel as the c27fg70, in all likelihood the one in the Lenovo Y27g is the same too (however it remains to be confirmed as of yet).

It seems many monitor manufacturers are now releasing new models with these samsung PVA Panels.
AOC also announced a few new VA monitors that are scheduled for release in the next two months, one of them a curved VA 3.440 × 1.440 with gsync, it could use the same panel as the samsung cf791.
It is called "Low Motion Blur".

There is no mention that Curved Series is the same as Gaming Series, since there are also Flat Series that don't come with VA Panels and "Advanced Display Technology".


Yet, C27FG70's panel type is specified as "VA" on its page.[Source]
Edited by mtcn77 - 10/11/16 at 8:14am
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I watched these videos, thank you for posting them. What i find curious is that you can see him browsing through the OSD on the c24fg70 several times, but there is no ULMB or low Blur option or whatever they may call it.

It seems to be completly missing from this model, maybe he is using an early review sample or am i missing something ?
Judging by the one comment on the video, the "fastest" mode automatically enables strobing.

Also, it seems to introduce a sizable amount of overshoot, which is unfortunate. Guess we'll have to wait for TFTC to get more details.
    
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Good point, he uploaded another video where you can see that the screen starts to flicker a bit after he switches the response time from standard to faster.

Maybe both faster and fastest enable what samsung promotes as impulsive scanning (ulmb).

Also, i just thought of something. Someone posted a link from the official AMD freesync site, the samsung cfg70 model is listed there with a freesync range of 70-144Hz with displayport.

Just speculation, but what if this impulsive scanning works with variable refresh (with freesync enabled) and they decided on the lowest sync range of 70hz on purpose because, if you use freesync and ulmb, the monitor hz can get very low if the fps are low and this would introduce obvious flicker, but if the monitor starts to framedouble (LFC) at 70h,z you would have 140hz strobing again (it would possibly introduce some other issues but arguably still better then low hz flicker).
Edited by aliquis - 10/11/16 at 7:56am
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That's exactly the reason why I can't understand anyone worrying about 21:9 support. Even in the worst case scenario you are getting what you would have gotten anyways (most decide between 34" 21:9 and 27" 16:9). Having this in mind made the 21:9 format a no brainer for me, the panel just has to deliver enough performance.

Yeah, but you lose a lot of real-state. You can play @ 16:9 on a 21:9, sure thing. But it is far from ideal.
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Yeah, my only real concern is size. I'll see if I can fit a 35" monitor on my new desk. Even if I dislike 21:9 I'd still like to get one of the upcoming 3440 x 1440 high refresh rate G-SYNC/ULMB monitors (AU Optronics based) and switch it to 16:9 with black bars. Better than my low contrast IPS glow or the tiny low resolution FG2421 I'm getting in a few days.

Why do you get all the goodies? I would get a FG2421 If I could, but they aren't available in Europe. At least not the re-certified, cheap units. I want one!!!



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Amazon.de has it for 403 euros instead of the msrp 449 which is pretty nice, I kinda want one but probably gonna wait for the tftcentral review to see the real response times, still VA 3000:1 and 144hz that's pretty nice if doesn't have very high response times in some pixel transitions like the fg2412 did.

Too many god damn horror games (normal games too...) were ruined cus of the damn backlight bleed and ****ty contrast ratio sad-smiley-002.gif

Indeed. And the more you notice it, the more it bother you and so on. It is a circle.

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I watched these videos, thank you for posting them. What i find curious is that you can see him browsing through the OSD on the c24fg70 several times, but there is no ULMB or low Blur option or whatever they may call it.

It seems to be completly missing from this model, maybe he is using an early review sample or am i missing something ?

The fastest gaming modes include strobing. Anytime he touches something on the OSD he is switching the gaming mode on and off. If you look carefully you can see the screen flicker when the game mode is on, due to strobing.
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