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On basically everything I play, from Arma, to The Culling, to Watchdogs, to CSGO, I will get fps drops. They happen around every 5-10 minutes, last around 10 seconds, and consistently drop me the games down to a range of 20-30 fps, depending on the game. On Watchdogs, for example, I get a steady 40-50 FPS normally on full ULTRA settings, but it will drop to about 20. On CSGO, I have it locked at 144 FPS, and it drops to around 30-35.

My system is as follows:

AMD FX 8320
GTX 970 MSI
16 GB RAM

Stock cooling fans, factory 1TB hard drive.
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On basically everything I play, from Arma, to The Culling, to Watchdogs, to CSGO, I will get fps drops. They happen around every 5-10 minutes, last around 10 seconds, and consistently drop me the games down to a range of 20-30 fps, depending on the game. On Watchdogs, for example, I get a steady 40-50 FPS normally on full ULTRA settings, but it will drop to about 20. On CSGO, I have it locked at 144 FPS, and it drops to around 30-35.

My system is as follows:

AMD FX 8320
GTX 970 MSI
16 GB RAM

Stock cooling fans, factory 1TB hard drive.

Show us some a screenshot of your temps using HW INFO 64 or similar program. Could be thermal throttling. As an 8370 owner I have no issues pushing the 300fps barrier on CS. Arma I know is predominantly single threaded and so does suffer on FX hardware, but the fact that you are getting these regular frame drops at specific intervals points to the problem being something else.
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Show us some a screenshot of your temps using HW INFO 64 or similar program. Could be thermal throttling. As an 8370 owner I have no issues pushing the 300fps barrier on CS. Arma I know is predominantly single threaded and so does suffer on FX hardware, but the fact that you are getting these regular frame drops at specific intervals points to the problem being something else.

This is idle on the desktop after having Watchdogs closed for about 30-45 minutes.





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Re seat your cooler!

That should be your load temps!.
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Re seat your cooler!

That should be your load temps!.

I've actually been thinking about investing into liquid cooling for the CPU, which would make sure the problem is fixed, correct?
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This is idle on the desktop after having Watchdogs closed for about 30-45 minutes.






Please use GPUz to monitor these drops, have it open while playing games to then check all data about running frequency, temps of the GPU, Please use GPUz to monitor these drops, have it open while playing games to then check all data about running frequency, temps of the GPU, Usage percentage, memory usage, VRMs temps ETC...

If I had to guess I'd say your PCI-E Slots are somehow degrading themselves from 2.0 x16 to 2.0 x1 or 1.1 X4 for some reason, as to which you'd need to reset the bios by restarting the CMOS.

Other than that it could be your processor downclocking itself mid gaming because of some shady C state equivalent setting on BIOS, so you also need to check your CPU frequencies when running those games and when the drops happen, usage percentage, memory usage, VRMs temps ETC...

If I had to guess I'd say your PCI-E Slots are somehow degrading themselves from 2.0 x16 to 2.0 x1 or 1.1 X4 for some reason, as to which you'd need to reset the bios by restarting the CMOS.

Other than that it could be your processor downclocking itself mid gaming because of some shady C state equivalent setting on BIOS, so you also need to check your CPU frequencies when running those games and when the drops happen.


HOLY JESUS I JUST SAW THE SCREENSHOT YOU POSTED,IGNORE EVERYTHING I SAID ABOVE.

I have a FX 8350 on my old gaming PC and those temperatures you posted are absolutely insane, despite what most people say FX processors run way cooler than Intel processors, Intel processors can run up to 95c before throttling while FX processors have a lower upper limit at around 70c but a lower working range as well.

A FX processor shouldn't go above 61c under any circumstances, not even after 24 hours of Prime95 testing. You should be aiming at a TOP maximum of 55c on the cores and this is with an overclocked FX processor, my stock FX 8350 on my H80i wouldn't go above 40c under Prime95 load, let alone gaming, idle temps were low as ambient, 19c with no C state on, meaning max voltage and frequency 100% of the time.

You definitely got the cooler wrong, temps are obviously your issue here, if these are your idle temp I can only cringe to imagine what your load temps would be while gaming, to be honest I'm AMAZED your FX CPU haven't died yet, you should fix this ASAP because there's only so much luck you can have.

I'd recommend you to get a Corsair H60 which should be more than enough while being very affordable at 60$.

For the Thermal Paste you can't go wrong with this one which benchmarks show is one of the best in the market, the IC Diamond Carat , I also recommend to buy these two Artic Silver TIM removal to clean your processor IHS before applying a new cooler.

And, I know this is a stretch but if you plan on using your FX processor for a decent amount of time considering at least a Sabertooth Motherboard. They pack some solid VRMs and components so you don't have to worry about power consumption or temperatures beyond your CPU, in the screenshot you posted your motherboard is also burning.

But if you want to remain using your current motherboard then I'd suggest you to heavily undervolt your FX processor until you can comfortably run Prime95 on it without burning your motherboard down.
Edited by Dargonplay - 7/11/16 at 12:29am
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I've actually been thinking about investing into liquid cooling for the CPU, which would make sure the problem is fixed, correct?
your CPU core/package temps must be well into the 70s while gaming, which is very high!

Investing in a cooler is a good idea, should solve your problem.

Also, which motherboard are you using, socket temps that high could be damaging for a cheap motherboard.
Edited by Ashura - 7/11/16 at 12:09am
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Please use GPUz to monitor these drops, have it open while playing games to then check all data about running frequency, temps of the GPU, Please use GPUz to monitor these drops, have it open while playing games to then check all data about running frequency, temps of the GPU, Usage percentage, memory usage, VRMs temps ETC...

If I had to guess I'd say your PCI-E Slots are somehow degrading themselves from 2.0 x16 to 2.0 x1 or 1.1 X4 for some reason, as to which you'd need to reset the bios by restarting the CMOS.

Other than that it could be your processor downclocking itself mid gaming because of some shady C state equivalent setting on BIOS, so you also need to check your CPU frequencies when running those games and when the drops happen, usage percentage, memory usage, VRMs temps ETC...

If I had to guess I'd say your PCI-E Slots are somehow degrading themselves from 2.0 x16 to 2.0 x1 or 1.1 X4 for some reason, as to which you'd need to reset the bios by restarting the CMOS.

Other than that it could be your processor downclocking itself mid gaming because of some shady C state equivalent setting on BIOS, so you also need to check your CPU frequencies when running those games and when the drops happen.



HOLY JESUS I JUST SAW THE SCREENSHOT YOU POSTED,IGNORE EVERYTHING I SAID BEFORE.


I'm assuming you agree with the others on the Temp, then? Either way, I plan on getting a liquid cooling system for the CPU.
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your CPU core/package temps must be well into the 70s while gaming, which is very high!

Investing in a cooler is a good idea, should solve your problem.

Also, which motherboard are you using, socket temps that high could be damaging for a cheap motherboard.

The motherboard that came with my PC, which is a 760GMA-P34 (FX)
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The motherboard that came with my PC, which is a 760GMA-P34 (FX)
If possible replace it as well. With socket temps that high you might end up killing that board.

Also, DO NOT overclock on that motherboard.
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