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post #51 of 260
simple shell, not a lot of square edges, if you can find something similar to say Zowie ZA series but perhaps a little more | | shaped (think WMO, but hump further in the back, and taller butt, lower in the front) - so that you can place your fingers along the entire sides wherever you'd like rather than forcing a grip in the middle.

maybe even an egg shape with slightly sloped sides so you can easily lift it, but more shape to the back so you can palm it better. can't be wide and flat for that reason. tongue.gif fingertip grip works good with that, claw too assuming there is good shape to the back, and palm because you get the support for palm.

3360 sensor seems like the best, no reason to use anything else - this should be aimed at the high end. thumb.gif
I personally prefer Omron switches, but shell design is much more important for button feel, so choose something durable and trusted. Omron 20m seem great in everything I've tried with it.
keep the button delay low - it seems like you guys do well on that, good job there! smile.gif doesn't have to be THE BEST if you can't help it, but keeping it +/- 10ms of the ~famous logitech~ mice is a good ballpark.
this means shell design should ideally have separate button pieces, so that the force is only a vertical one, rather than tension too - but I am sure you guys are aware of this. doesn't have to be super light, but it does feel a lot crisper with this type of shell.

rubberized plastic is fine with me as long as it's durable. textured ABS is great too, and does have a good track record in keyboards for long-term use - might not keep its texture for super long though. this is probably really difficult to make happen because of moulds and such, but would be super cool if possible.

as for cable, thin rubberized, flexible, just don't do braided any more please. redface.gif most users here are cloth pad users I'd be willing to bet, and cable catching on edge of pad is the worst feeling ever.

feet - mm, I am a minority here I think, preferring smaller round ones (most even friction distribution, and least friction) - so large ones are probably more popular, and us small feeters can just remove the stock ones and add our own - I use hyperglides for example.

scroll wheel - usually overlooked by manufacturers. please us a really really durable and crisp one. this makes such a huge difference to the mousing experience. a lot of CSGO players jump using the scroll wheel (to bunnyhop, getting more jumps in at the moment of landing to not lose any speed) and abuse the heck out of it. having jump bound on scroll wheel and accidental scrolling usually results in death in CSGO.

weight - has been said in pretty much every post right? lower is better, <100g is always preferred. seems you guys are aware of that tongue.gif

software? if you want to. just a DPI switch button is good enough for target audience here I think.

can't think of anything else really. good sensor with good implementation, is of course important.

oh for Name: DM3 Pro-er
Edited by munchzilla - 7/11/16 at 11:28pm
post #52 of 260
I can't pass up chance trying mice. So I'm in.....

Personally I would like to see a right handed white glossy top, black matte finish sides, Ergo similar to the savu and size infused with kinzu shell with ergo twist, 3360 sensor, 85g or less with non-braided cord.

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post #53 of 260
Should be the same shape as the DM1 S, but larger.
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I don't think I have 50 posts but I'd like to submit my input on ideas for your next mouse.

Personally I've always felt that a good finger tip grip mouse needs to be one where you know how "off" your mouse is. If you start holding your mouse at a 20 degree angle off from perfectly straight, it'll affect your movements quite a bit. So, I was hoping there would be a mouse made where the sides do not curve. Just straight sides that round out at the end to have a curved end. This way, you get a feel for how straight your mouse is and also, you can fingertip grip it as high or down as you want on the side of the mouse (i.e. as close to the wire or as far away from it as desired). And to make the mouse more comfy to hold (but arguably harder to lift) I think the sides should slope downwards as in the mouse gets bigger as your fingers move close to the mousepad. I think with a good rubber grip on the mouse this would work.
post #55 of 260
I'd like to see an ergo shape similar to the EC1/2, DA, XM300 etc. A nice shoe shape for the palm grippers. Call it the... DM3 S. 😉
Edited by frunction - 7/11/16 at 10:02pm
post #56 of 260
I'd like to see a Kinzu, maybe you can call it something like the "DM1 Mini" since the Kinzu is a smaller Sensei.
    
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Haha, make it turquoise and very right-angled.
Then name it... the DMO. (Click to show)
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post #58 of 260
I don't post often so I guess I can't really enter for the giveaway, but... this is what I'd want anyways.

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DreamMachines Lucid.

According to Merrian-Webster it means:
"very clear and easy to understand, having full use of one's faculties, clear to the understanding"

It can also be a reference to Lucid Dreaming, where you have control. I find this matches the name "DreamMachines" very well indeed.

+1 for the name.

  • Shape: WMO clone. Separated buttons, same curved edges (including the front/buttons. Feels great for my longer fingers, which overhang every mouse I've ever used in palm grip), etc.
  • Weight: As light as possible. 80g or less if you can.
  • Sensor: 3360.
  • Buttons: The only shape change I'd make to the WMO, is adding side buttons. Ideal for me would be two on one side for right-handed use, but if you wanted to make it fully ambidextrous, I might prefer one on each side to keep the weight down, but even I don't know how much I'd like that in practice.
  • Durable scroll wheel. Like half of the mice I own have malfunctioning wheels that prevent me from using them.
  • Cable: Zowie. I've never heard of a mouse with a normal that cable failed under normal usage, that wouldn't have failed if it was braided. But I've had braided cables kink up terribly. My favorite cable so far is my Zowie ZA13's.
  • Material: The WMO's textured plastic was totally fine. I'm using a Zowie ZA13 now, that's great too.
  • Software: Simple, minimal, optional, unobtrusive (no running in background/startup), portable (no install needed) configuration software.
  • I'm not picky about switches, as long as they are high quality.
  • And of course great performance in general. low click latency, responsive sensor, great accuracy, etc.
post #59 of 260
Dream Machines React ONE (or React 1) (then stress like smoothness of the mouse feet, click latency, sensor performance) faster 'reactions'


Everyone covered it, in my order

Clicks (latency low)
Sensor - we've hit peak sensor atm with the 3366 and 3360's
Shape - Dm's have had this on lock down
Weight - Dm also has this on lock down.
post #60 of 260
I love everything you've done with the DM1 Pro so far and the S looks really nice.

I would only maybe suggest making another model similar in shape to a EC1-A or Deathadder Chroma that is slightly larger or maybe has the slight curvature on the left and right clicks to rest your fingers. Also maybe give the option of getting a regular rubber/plastic cord instead of the rope cord.
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