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It had no competition. HD 6970 competitor was GTX 570.

I know that, but the 580 and 6970 were the single-GPU flagships of that generation, and that's what I was referring to.
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It had no competition. HD 6970 competitor was GTX 570.
HD6870x2 was placed in competition with it.

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Seeing 20-30 frame increase on 1 fury x with sig rig with vulkan @ 4k. Framrate avg seems to be over 70 fps. Anyone know a frame limiter that works with vulkan?
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Ok so Vulkan is clearly amazing for newer AMD hardware.

Can we expect this kind of jump with Nvidia in an upcoming driver?

Be honest please. I and many others would love to see this gap stay but if it's unlikely, I'd like to know.

Science this sucker out for me OCN 😃
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Ok so Vulkan is clearly amazing for newer AMD hardware.

Can we expect this kind of jump with Nvidia in an upcoming driver?

Be honest please. I and many others would love to see this gap stay but if it's unlikely, I'd like to know.

Science this sucker out for me OCN 😃
You can bet the chairman will not hold back. The only regulation they have is for fair-play, the rest is up to the vendors for suggestion.
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Anyone that owns a Fury X, how flexible is the AIO tubing?
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id software has done probably the best performance optimizations for AMD GPUs possible in a modern AAA game. Doom running on Vulkan benefits from 3 major performance optimizations.
1. Async compute
2. Shader intrinsics (exposed through GPUOpen)
3. Frame flip optimizations

https://community.bethesda.net/thread/54585?start=0&tstart=0
http://radeon.com/doom-vulkan/

AMD needs to do more such work with developers to exploit their GPUs potential to the fullest by promoting DX12 / Vulkan and GPUOpen. The next few months are going to see huge AAA titles aligned with AMD Gaming Evolved such as Deus Ex Mankind Divided, Battlefield 1, Watch Dogs 2. There are other DX12 titles too releasing in 2016 such as Gears of War 4, Forza Horizon 3 which should perform well on AMD GPUs .
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id software has done probably the best performance optimizations for AMD GPUs possible in a modern AAA game. Doom running on Vulkan benefits from 3 major performance optimizations.
1. Async compute
2. Shader intrinsics (exposed through GPUOpen)
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https://community.bethesda.net/thread/54585?start=0&tstart=0
http://radeon.com/doom-vulkan/

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AMD's been a bit of a roller coaster ride for you, eh raghu? smile.gif
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AMD's been a bit of a roller coaster ride for you, eh raghu? smile.gif

I am disappointed with Rx 480's perf/watt in general. I also feel the GF 14LPP process is not in good shape and there is scope for improvement. There seem to be plans for a second revision of the Polaris chips. Those should launch next year when GF works out the process issues. Still AMD has an uphill task with Vega and Zen in trying to get close to their competition in perf/watt.
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Ok so Vulkan is clearly amazing for newer AMD hardware.

Can we expect this kind of jump with Nvidia in an upcoming driver?

Be honest please. I and many others would love to see this gap stay but if it's unlikely, I'd like to know.

Science this sucker out for me OCN 😃

I think what's happening is that AMD's OpenGL driver was pretty bad. Using Vulkan, you can now see what AMD's hardware can actually do.

NVIDIA's OpenGL driver is apparently very good. It likely already got pretty close to what's theoretically possible with the hardware. You won't ever see a big improvement from Vulkan on NVIDIA if that's true.

The DirectX 11 vs. 12 situation seems to be somewhat similar, though with AMD's DX11 driver being a lot better than their OpenGL driver, so there's less of an improvement there.

Another hint about all of this can perhaps be seen in the Linux situation where there's an open source effort of some random nerds writing an OpenGL driver. The open source OpenGL driver there can compete pretty well with AMD's official OpenGL driver for things like fps in Valve games, but a similar open source OpenGL driver for NVIDIA produces a lot lower fps compared to NVIDIA's official driver. This could perhaps be proof that NVIDIA's drivers are a lot closer to what the hardware can do when everything's perfect, meaning you can't expect great improvements from Vulkan.
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