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The problems that happened with some of the 840 EVOs (neither of mine had the problem and are still going strong) has never shown up in the 850 EVOs.

I understand, but the bottom line is TLC NAND management is trickier compared to MLC, all else being equal. So if I can help it, I'd rather avoid TLC drives for the time being. You can call me paranoid, but it's just my personal preference.
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that whole 840 evo issue was within only 840 evo, i currently have the 480gb ultra II sitting next to my samsung 950 pro and i honestly can't really notice much difference. some big maps in games loads a bit quicker but i think thats about it.

It's all subjective, but like I said I've used both and could feel the difference. Also why the 850 Pro is a storage drive and not the OS drive, because it too didn't feel quite as responsive compared to the Extreme Pro.
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Yeah about that...



That drive only has my steam library, and its a 850 evo. I've got a SM951 128GB boot drive and a 500GB 840 evo for programs and stuff. All of my media is on my media server too.

OK I guess some people just insist having most or all of their steam library downloaded. In that case and still wanting all to be on SSD, then you must pay the pretty penny. Personally I don't see the appeal of having an entire steam library ready to go...but that's just me.

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That is a rather presumptuous claim you just made. There is no way on earth I would be able to jam everything on my computer onto a single 1 TB drive.

I don't have room for a separate NAS. I keep everything except backups on my desktop computer (my backups are on individual internal type HDDs kept stored in a drawer and my safe deposit box at my credit union; once prices drop enough, I will move my backups to SSDs and lose the HDDs).

You get the point. You don't need to jam everything on SSD. Archival stuff is fine on HDD. You don't need a NAS and can put additional drives in your system, unless you live in a 200ft apartment in Hong Kong and have a ITX system then I can understand.
     
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My 1st SSD was a Crucial M4 for $1.35/GB. This 4GB EVO is already @ $0.37/GB. I would not call this bad for those in need for that kind of density, and there are many that do - not just for games, but creative professional applications too.

It is not just the games, most applications these days are bloating up and having a 500GB class SSD filled up is not hard - even without games, and I would consider them baseline for design work.
250GB Class drives are hard to be workable with just Adobe CC & Autodesk Suites ontop of the OS filling the drive up, even if the bulk of storage is done @ a file server in a corp. environment.

@ Home I will have ~2TB of SSD (nvme + SATA, upping my current SATA only drives) in my upcoming ITX build, and no spinning drives.
My photo collection had to migrate in a RAID 1 NAS/DAS (did not want to deal with RAID 5 or 6), and its north of 2TB alone.

The working catalog for LR & most of PS work, 3DS / Sketchup projects etc, are all done locally in a 960GB SATA SSD, and then backed up into the NAS.

It is a cumbersome process, but the performance difference working on the SSD is very notable.
I am looking forward to a couple of years from now that 4TB or larger drives will be much more affordable.

I would love to have a RAID 1 pair of those over USB 3.1 as my "take-anywhere-working-drive" =)
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Yeah about that...



That drive only has my steam library, and its a 850 evo. I've got a SM951 128GB boot drive and a 500GB 840 evo for programs and stuff. All of my media is on my media server too.

OK I guess some people just insist having most or all of their steam library downloaded. In that case and still wanting all to be on SSD, then you must pay the pretty penny. Personally I don't see the appeal of having an entire steam library ready to go...but that's just me.

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That is a rather presumptuous claim you just made. There is no way on earth I would be able to jam everything on my computer onto a single 1 TB drive.

I don't have room for a separate NAS. I keep everything except backups on my desktop computer (my backups are on individual internal type HDDs kept stored in a drawer and my safe deposit box at my credit union; once prices drop enough, I will move my backups to SSDs and lose the HDDs).

You get the point. You don't need to jam everything on SSD. Archival stuff is fine on HDD. You don't need a NAS and can put additional drives in your system, unless you live in a 200ft apartment in Hong Kong and have a ITX system then I can understand.

The ability store data on drives that aren't susceptible to damage from physical shock is a strong incentive to swallow the higher price of SSDs (face it, drop an HDD and it's pretty much always toast). If you need to lug around a PC loaded with HDDs, the reduced weight of SSDs is also highly attractive (especially at my age and with my handicaps). The reduced amount of room to store SSD backup drives can also be huge.

Keep in mind that many people have only laptops. Being able to have impact resistance and increased storage space (affordable 2.5" HDDs are limited to 2TB) will go a long ways toward negating the higher cost of SSDs.

The amount one is able and/or willing to pay for the advantages of SSDs over HDDs will vary widely from person to person. I plan on starting with gradually replacing the HDDs in my desktop rig with 4TB SSDs (in addition to a 128GB SSD boot drive, I have two 2TB and one 4TB HDDs in my machine and I've had to start the folder juggling game to have room for my data on the three), starting with one 4TB SSD to supplement my three HDDs, but it will be quite a while before I can justify the expense of replacing my backup HDDs (currently 12) with SSDs. The longer it takes me, the less it will cost since prices will be gradually going down.
     
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OK I guess some people just insist having most or all of their steam library downloaded. In that case and still wanting all to be on SSD, then you must pay the pretty penny. Personally I don't see the appeal of having an entire steam library ready to go...but that's just me.

I know some people who are bandwidth restricted and keep all of their games installed so that they don't have to download them again. It's cheaper to buy another SSD than it is to pay the bandwidth overage charges from the ISP.
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OK I guess some people just insist having most or all of their steam library downloaded. In that case and still wanting all to be on SSD, then you must pay the pretty penny. Personally I don't see the appeal of having an entire steam library ready to go...but that's just me.

I know some people who are bandwidth restricted and keep all of their games installed so that they don't have to download them again. It's cheaper to buy another SSD than it is to pay the bandwidth overage charges from the ISP.

Exactly, not to mention an internet connection can be slow (I still have nightmares from my old dial-up days) or not available.
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Amazon is now taking preorders for the 4TB EVO for a "mere" $1499.99. It will be released 07/31/2016.

It's curious Newegg and Microcenter don't list it yet.

Edit: Fry's Electronics is also listing it but isn't taking preorders. They are just showing store pickup only and unavailable. They do show the same price as Amazon.
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