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I have an Asus Maximus VII impact board with an i5 4690k in with a Corsair H100i aiw cooler - it has spent the last year almost in a slghtly modded BitFenix Prodigy . I have found this case to be frustrating to the point that as soon as I can find a replacement It will go into scrap metal ( after I remove and reuse some of it's components in another build )
I was looking at the "The Define Nano S " but my cooler will not fit because of the VRM riser on the Impact board then there is the NZXT Manta seriously expensive , and just totally not to my taste .
I drive a "ute" in Aussie speak ( pickup in American ) not a Celica - some may get the relevance !
but back to cases ( the sytem actually fits in the Manta )
Anyway looking for Ideas .
this may be the end to "Fatso" in my sig for ever ( after 3 rebuilds )
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i would think you could mount the cooler in the front of the nano s? i personally like both cases,but they get frowned on because they are to large . maybe its time to rethink the cooler instead of the case. theres plenty of air coolers that will perform the same.
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I really like the Nano s but It , kind of just does not work - which is why I am axing the Prodegy .
both are large in the wrong places and small where a little bigger ( 8mm in the case of the define nano ) would make it work .
I sometimes wonder if some of these companies only build a single system in a case before they release it ( if any at all )
They seem to have cutouts and cages etc for all these different combinations but only one way actually works .
post #4 of 10
I had the 380t for just over a year. Kind of similar to the Prodigy in being a fairly large mini-ITX case. It was good, but I was looking for something smaller for mobility purposes, and then I found the Ncase M1.

It can hold your H100i, can take full sized graphics cards, and you can even go for full custom watercooling down the line if you want. And it's a 12.6L case. My 380t was 40.8, over twice the size, and the Prodigy is 26.35 (that's just the internals, it takes up a lot more space with the feet and handles). It is expensive, but it is a specialised case made by two enthusiasts who make little to no profit from it.

Here's a review from techpowerup on it, giving it 9.9: https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/NCASE/M1

It's the best case I've ever owned, and I wouldn't suggest any other for a mini-itx build.
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post #5 of 10
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I have not seen a 380T in the flesh but it looks like an obsidian 250D in a coloured frock , and that would make it pretty large !
How was it in real life ?
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Well, it looked good IMO, had good airflow which you would expect from a case with vents everywhere. I even liked the plastic windows, they showed off the side of the card and the reservoir of the H220X (when I still used it) very nicely.

What I didn't like, and as you point out, is that the case is pretty massive. I bought it because I needed something smaller than my old 300r (a mid tower case) that could hold the same hardware with similar cooling potential. The reason for the need was I had to be able to put it in a suitcase and move with it via car/train fairly regularly.

The 380t did all that, but only just. Yes it was a lot shorter, but it was actually much wider and a similar length, and needed a very large suitcase to carry properly. In the end I just got fed up with it taking up so much packing space and repeated the process of looking for a smaller case that could still fit all my hardware and still be able to cool it.

That's how I found the M1. As you might be able to tell with my previous post, this is the case I wish I had gone with from the start.
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post #7 of 10
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The ncase unfortunately does not appear to be available in Australia !
Freight for cases from UK or USA is insane and usually not worth the bother .
post #8 of 10
Ah, well that sucks frown.gif if you can manage to find it somehow, that would be the one to go for. Along the more common cases, the 250D might be your best choice as it is pretty much the exact same interior as the 380t while being smaller.

Maybe someone else can give a better case that is available in AU, but other than that and silverstone cases which you are obviously familiar with, I don't know what else to recommend.
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post #9 of 10
Other itx options down under that will fit a 240 rad are:

Sharkoon C10: https://www.i-tech.com.au/sharkoon-c10-mini-itx-case

Cougar QBX: http://www.gamedude.com.au/prod_show.php?art_no=casCGqbx

Fractal Core 500: https://www.i-tech.com.au/fractal-design-core-500-black-fd-ca-core-500-bk.html

Corsair Air 240: https://www.i-tech.com.au/corsair-cc-9011069-ww-air240 (Technically it's a mATX - but once you're over 20L is it really itx?)

Thermaltake Core X1: https://www.i-tech.com.au/thermaltake-core-x1-itx-cube-case-usb-3-0-no-psu-ca-1d6-00s1wn-00.html - The most 'Ute' of the group.

The Lian Li PC-Q10 will support a 240 rad too in un-UTE tinted glass and aluminum. biggrin.gif
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The Sharkoon C10 looked good until I watched a review of a build in it - yeah , not really .
If I posted my opinion of the Fractal core 500 I would be sued ( I made the mistake of buying one for a different build ) that said , the guy I sold it too thinks it's the ducks gonads , Can't displease everybody - I guess .
I had a Thermaltake Core V1 I was not bad - very basic but ok build quality so I am looking at the core X1 out of this lot , the Corsair 250 D and the define nano with a mobo change but I still have other niggles with it .
Does anybody know if there is one of those big computer "expo"/Show things coming up ? Sometimes some really interesting stuff comes up during / after them .
I definitely prefer the vetical motherboard in the Define nano though .
Anything I get has to be better than the Prodigy , or it just is not worth the trouble !
I had a look at a friend's Caselabs ( $399 Au plus shipping ) case which he believes ( somewhat passionately ) is the best case ever built - build quality was good the design ok but for me not worth the money .
The machine has worked ok / done the job in the prodigy for a year a little while longer will not matter - just that Tax return time is almost here and I was intending to blow my tax return on upgrading it .
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