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There's not really much that can be improved with hard drives. They have been perfected over the past 70 years and are insanely cheap to produce. There's no need to have an expansive R&D department anymore. Even spending money on marketing them is unnecessary.
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Let those damn things die off already like physical media. This is not the 80's any more.

Yeah I mean there are much more reliable and economical ways to store terabytes of data anyway.With current prices of 2tb ssd's,the ole spinner will never die.

If they feel it's necessary to let some people go who am I to disagree.
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There's not really much that can be improved with hard drives. They have been perfected over the past 70 years and are insanely cheap to produce. There's no need to have an expansive R&D department anymore. Even spending money on marketing them is unnecessary.

Seagate must have missed the memo. My last drive from them died in less than a year.
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Seagate must have missed the memo. My last drive from them died in less than a year.

Manufacturing defect?

I stand corrected...what I was more or less referring to was consumer grade SATA drives saturating the bandwidth. All that's left to improve on is platter density. I haven't purchased a Hard drive in like 10 years so I must be living under a rock redface.gif
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Hard disk developments continue to wring a mixture of increased capacity and either stable or increased performance at lower cost. For example, Seagate introduced a 6TB disk in early 2014 which finessed existing techniques, but subsequently announced an 8TB disk at the end of the year based on Shingled Magnetic Recording (SMR). This works by allowing tracks on the disk to overlap each other, eliminating the fallow area previously used to separate them. The greater density this allows is offset by the need to rewrite multiple tracks at once. This slows down some write operations, but for a 25 percent increase in capacity -- and with little need for expensive revamps in manufacturing techniques.

http://www.zdnet.com/article/the-future-of-storage-2015-and-beyond/
Edited by aweir - 7/12/16 at 11:04am
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I was referring to the extremely high failure rate of seagate's 4tb drives from that year.
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I could have sworn. Seagate was not concerned about the hdd market at all. Insisting hdd's are here to stay and high demand will always be there. rolleyes.gif Ignorant fools. Let those damn things die off already like physical media. This is not the 80's any more.

Certainly sir, I'll have our entire data centre convert to SSDs including the entire tape-based archives, that'll be the princely sum of a few billion dollars. Would you like to be billed by cash or card?
Research tiered data storage, HDDs are never going to go away unless they're replaced by an equally durable and inexpensive storage medium.
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post #17 of 20
If this is the only way we ever get cheaper hard drives then I'm all for it. Platters are a dead technology and prices will never change again except for improvements to manufacturing efficiency.
I really think that industry needs to look at making either wider or taller HDD's mainstream. All the density improvements I've heard of sound expensive and unreliable (is it even possible to make a Helium container that never leaks?).
Edited by ILoveHighDPI - 7/12/16 at 1:03pm
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Certainly sir, I'll have our entire data centre convert to SSDs including the entire tape-based archives, that'll be the princely sum of a few billion dollars. Would you like to be billed by cash or card?
Research tiered data storage, HDDs are never going to go away unless they're replaced by an equally durable and inexpensive storage medium.

http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/scientists-smash-data-storage-records-360tb-glass-device-that-saves-files-billions-years-1544226

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post #19 of 20
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I could have sworn. Seagate was not concerned about the hdd market at all. Insisting hdd's are here to stay and high demand will always be there. rolleyes.gif Ignorant fools. Let those damn things die off already like physical media. This is not the 80's any more.

Hard drives and SSDs are both physical media.
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Hard drives and SSDs are both physical media.
I assume he's referring more to disc based media. Not something I agree with, as physical media for audio and video is normally superior in quality.
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