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I found something interesting, noticing that it seems to be mainly CSGO players complaining about stutters, I thought what is unique about CSGO? its that the players play vsync unlocked with a high framerate as possible. On modern cards this is over 200fps.

So I loaded up heaven bench on really low settings and no vsync and for the first time noticed stutters in some scenes when the framerate goes over 220fps. So it seems for mainstream gaming where people run at normal framerates e.g. 30-144fps these are fine. But if you run at insane high framerates like 200+, then it stutters.

Am I onto something?

I dont think DPC latency is anything to do with it, it was just coincidence this problem was discovered "and" there was an idle DPC latency bug. My guess is there is some kind of bottleneck that doesnt allow a super high framerate smoothly.

Nope, that isn't it. I have always played CSGO at high framerate. CSGO only has a problem when the framerate exceeds 999 fps. That is when the game engine starts to have problems. Playing with the 1080 and every graphical setting cranked @ 1440 gives me a framerate of like 250-400 depending on the map. Its not high enough for that to be the issue either.
I think he was trying to say the card itself has a problem with framerates above 200, not CS:GO.

I don't think that's it, but i think that was his point.
    
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I think he was trying to say the card itself has a problem with framerates above 200, not CS:GO.

I don't think that's it, but i think that was his point.

Yup, that's what I got from it as well. However, that isn't the case as you've already stated. I've been playing Overwatch at 299 fps without issues for a while now. I'll play some CS later and check if there is anything to report.
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So I loaded up heaven bench on really low settings and no vsync and for the first time noticed stutters in some scenes when the framerate goes over 220fps. So it seems for mainstream gaming where people run at normal framerates e.g. 30-144fps these are fine. But if you run at insane high framerates like 200+, then it stutters.

Am I onto something?

Stutters are more obvious at higher framerates. Playing at 30fps will have 33ms frametimes and a single 40ms frame wouldn't raise most people's eyebrows even though it degrades the game experience.

If you're playing at 144hz then the same amount of delay (7ms of system being halted) is equivelant to skipping an entire frame
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GTX 1070, fresh win10 install.... getting horrid microstutter on the 368.95 hotfix drivers.

Coming from R9 290 on this same hardware, which did not have this issue.
Edited by Nds39gk - 8/11/16 at 4:49am
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Nvidia needs to hurry up with the damn fix. I have an entirely new build ready to go with only the graphics card missing; and i'm not comfortable buying Pascal without knowing the fix actually works.
    
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GTX 1070, fresh win10 install.... getting horrid microstutter on the 368.95 hotfix drivers.

Coming from R9 290 on this same hardware, which did not have this issue.

Damn thats pretty bad news. I am also coming off of a 290X Referenced and installed my MSI 1070 Gaming X. I did not notice any issues before reading this thread but I ran LatencyMon and got terrible readings. I ran the hotfix driver and it cleared it up on LatencyMon, but then again I also never noticed anything (27inch 1440p 60Hz monitor). I have read though this is happening at a very high FPS range
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I think he was trying to say the card itself has a problem with framerates above 200, not CS:GO.

I don't think that's it, but i think that was his point.

Ahhhhh. Yeah I didn't pick up on that. As for that, I don't experience framerate spikes in other games at high framerate so I don't believe that would be it either.

Edit: As someone else pointed out already though, when playing at high framerate the frametimes spikes are so obvious. Its impossible to not notice a 20, 30, 40 or 50 millisecond frametime spike when you're playing at 250-400 FPS. Its pretty aids.
Edited by xer0h0ur - 8/11/16 at 8:50am
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well i have these stutters too, also with the new hotfix. First i thought this is simply because it´s SLI but that cant be, these stutters are too annoying and cant be normal.
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Still, what's the general consensus around here? Should I still grab a 1070? I understand you guys are a small number of people out of the total who have a 1070, but still. What if that 200+FPS thing is true?
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Still, what's the general consensus around here? Should I still grab a 1070? I understand you guys are a small number of people out of the total who have a 1070, but still. What if that 200+FPS thing is true?

At the moment there are problems with all 10 series cards .....most people are either unaware do not see it or think it may be something else at cause....

We are all hoping the next driver sorts most / all the issues but i have my doubts really..
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