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post #1271 of 1677
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Originally Posted by DumpALump View Post

I've been following this thread and other threads for a while now as I've had stuttering issues when I first got my 1080. The stuttering in Dying Light was so bad it wasn't playable. Installed the new driver just a few minutes ago and Dying Light runs well now with no stutter issues. This is with a 6600k @ 4.7ghz.

I have not tested any other game. So at least it seems like these stutter issues can be fixed with a driver update down the road and are not a permanent hardware issue, for those of you still with issues.

Glad its sorted for you ...dying light is one i was not having issues with but one of my friends was will be interested in his feedback ..

Further testing the DPC is a little bit lower but not by much there is still some issues
but some are actually fixed so its getting there ...one thing i have noticed testing on these 2 builds here the desktop feels allot more snappier responsive and the browser lag as been fixed too so that's good ...

Testing some more with games now
post #1272 of 1677
Update: still didn't fix ****. So, i used DDU, reboot, installed new drivers, opened a random video and latencymon, 3 minutes after i got this:


Well, i'll try to limit the fps on the desktop to see if i get different results.


Update2: agrrr, i want to kill some..thing... I tried every options i could, seems it makes no difference.



New drivers, limited the FPS to 60 (tried 59.7, 60.7), also turned off all the gsync stuff, since my monitor isn't gsync one, i guess i could exclude it to see if it would help. But nothing did, i only need to open a random video file, make latencymon run and in about 1-2 minutes i'll get that interruption high. Damn, i give up, i guess i have to watch movies with micro-stutter forever.
Edited by Trollitito - 8/16/16 at 7:45am
post #1273 of 1677
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Originally Posted by Trollitito View Post

Update: still didn't fix ****. So, i used DDU, reboot, installed new drivers, opened a random video and latencymon, 3 minutes after i got this:


Well, i'll try to limit the fps on the desktop to see if i get different results.


Update2: agrrr, i want to kill some..thing... I tried every options i could, seems it makes no difference.



New drivers, limited the FPS to 60 (tried 59.7, 60.7), also turned off all the gsync stuff, since my monitor isn't gsync one, i guess i could exclude it to see if it would help. But nothing did, i only need to open a random video file, make latencymon run and in about 1-2 minutes i'll get that interruption high. Damn, i give up, i guess i have to watch movies with micro-stutter forever.

Have you got any other card there with you that is not a 10 so to test in the same build ignore me if you have done so all ready
post #1274 of 1677
I don't. Before this build, i was using a laptop (dual core, pretty much from last decade) and the other desktop i had is even more dinossaur than the laptop, so i doubt the Geforce FX 5700LE will fit on my Z170 motherboard. tongue.gif

The only solution is trying without the 1070 and use the i7 igpu, but there i don't have any stuttering.

EDIT: i also tried disabling some devices like usb, high definition audio device (let the realtek one for the sound) and a few others. Nothing seems to help.
Edited by Trollitito - 8/16/16 at 8:24am
post #1275 of 1677
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Originally Posted by Trollitito View Post

I don't. Before this build, i was using a laptop (dual core, pretty much from last decade) and the other desktop i had is even more dinossaur than the laptop, so i doubt the Geforce FX 5700LE will fit on my Z170 motherboard. tongue.gif

The only solution is trying without the 1070 and use the i7 igpu, but there i don't have any stuttering.

EDIT: i also tried disabling some devices like usb, high definition audio device (let the realtek one for the sound) and a few others. Nothing seems to help.

I would check see if there is a bios update for your motherboard ..i have had success with bios updates reducing the DPC other than that not sure what to say ....If problems still persist after you have tried everything and the video's work as they should on the igpu.. if you can return your card then i would get a card that is not a 10 series card hate to say that ...

The z170 chipset with any 10 series card have given me the worst DPC results

its crazy really ...i have had 3 peeps that have returned there 10 series cards and have gone for a 9 series card instead and now there more than happy as there is no more issues as they had with there 10's ...

So what does one do when a customer wants to buy a 10 series card ..say no there no good really... here go for a 900 series instead (While stock lasts)

however i must admit these new drivers are a step in the right direction its getting better just takes nvidia far too long to sort ..as it been all most 4 months ?

The main bug which is was getting alot of flac for was browser lag ect this seems fixed now on the two rigs i have here and a few have reported all ok too....
Edited by harney - 8/16/16 at 9:56am
post #1276 of 1677
I do have my bios up to date. I periodically check asus website for updates and i'm on the latest version now.

I can't return it now, i've bought it for over a month, the only way would be the guarantee, but i doubt just this dpc thing will be 'included' in their acceptation.

Anyway, i need to check for myself if i see the stutters, because if i don't, i really don't mind high dpc latency. Since it's not 100% stuttering, i have to watch some videos for a bit to be sure.

But yeah, this whole thing seems some hardware incompatibility, maybe it's the Z170 with this gpu that's doing it. I don't think Nvidia would release a few (even if it was beta) drivers that actually didn't fix it.

Another update: i'm surprised and still septic about it, but it seems i'm not having stutters on the video playback anymore. I'm watching this same video that had stutters before and i'm in 40-50 minutes long and i'm not catching up any micro-stutters like before. Perhaps there are one moment or another that makes me pay more attention to see if it's stuttering or not, but that may be duo to the 24fps playback and my eyes are used to more fps. At least it's not like before, that's for sure, but still, latencymon shows high interrupts no matter what (probably not so high like before, but will test further). Now i just hope i didn't trade game's smoothness for video playback smoothness. biggrin.gif
Edited by Trollitito - 8/16/16 at 11:19am
post #1277 of 1677
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Originally Posted by Marctraider View Post

Did not solve my problems.

Looking at the changelog they just dumped the old DPC fix in.
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Originally Posted by mcg75 View Post

Looking at the release notes of the new driver, it refers to the hotfix driver as the source of dpc latency fix.

This would appear to mean no further work has been done.

If I'm wrong, feel free to correct me.

ManuelG talked about this driver in reference to more dpc fixes. There was some room for interpretation linguistically, like most communication, but it was pretty clear it was dpc he was referreing to. The link to that comment is in this thread a few page/s back. Don't get hung up on patchnotes, nvidia, like most vendors don't care about that. For example they didn't include anything about adding fast sync in this driver either.
post #1278 of 1677
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Originally Posted by harney View Post

Yes you may be correct

just starting testing some builds i have here with the 10's

some customer reports i am getting back is a mixed bag so far... but it seems the problems are still with us will know once i have tested my self but going on the feedback i have already not good

Yep testing right now and the problems still persist

This is a nightmare sometimes i wish i was just a customer and not a reseller of these problematic nvidia products that way i would not be getting the flac from my clients and i could just send it back and have done with it ..

Trying to get any form of support from nvidia is beyond a joke

Now yes i understand everything newly released will have some sort of issues bugs ect...but where well over 3 month period and all we got is them lowing the DPC ..
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Still not fixed?
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Originally Posted by Trollitito View Post

Update: still didn't fix ****. So, i used DDU, reboot, installed new drivers, opened a random video and latencymon, 3 minutes after i got this:


Well, i'll try to limit the fps on the desktop to see if i get different results.


Update2: agrrr, i want to kill some..thing... I tried every options i could, seems it makes no difference.



New drivers, limited the FPS to 60 (tried 59.7, 60.7), also turned off all the gsync stuff, since my monitor isn't gsync one, i guess i could exclude it to see if it would help. But nothing did, i only need to open a random video file, make latencymon run and in about 1-2 minutes i'll get that interruption high. Damn, i give up, i guess i have to watch movies with micro-stutter forever.
Those numbers look reasonable except the interrupt process latency. All in all NV driver is what 250-500us? Not bad considering it can also be 2500-5000us.

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I'm looking at all these nice 10xx cards and then oh wait there is a patch for the DPC latency...
Still not fixed mad.gif

There are so many people that buy the 10xx, sure not everyone is affected to the same degree but it must a stutter mess for quite a few 10xx owners whether they can see it or not worriedsmiley.gif

Nvidia fix your damn drivers! This is issue is as old ad 7xx series at least.
post #1279 of 1677
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Originally Posted by JackCY View Post

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Still not fixed?
Those numbers look reasonable except the interrupt process latency. All in all NV driver is what 250-500us? Not bad considering it can also be 2500-5000us.

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I'm looking at all these nice 10xx cards and then oh wait there is a patch for the DPC latency...
Still not fixed mad.gif

There are so many people that buy the 10xx, sure not everyone is affected to the same degree but it must a stutter mess for quite a few 10xx owners whether they can see it or not worriedsmiley.gif

Nvidia fix your damn drivers! This is issue is as old ad 7xx series at least.

You still don't have any issues right? What CPU do you have?
post #1280 of 1677
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Trollitito View Post

. I had no idea we could limit the fps that way and since i didn't want to give up from my 144hz settings, i never tried anything similar.

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You can have both this way. Limit the fps to 60 via inspector and have 144hz.
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