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Scottish ....its not that bad.....
It's really horrible for me, i have to admit. I'm 1 minute in, and it's giving me a headache. I have to make an effort to watch the video.
    
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I ignore the DPC and frametime spikes that occur when opening or closing a game and when alt-tabbing as all of those are skewed readings.
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It's really horrible for me, i have to admit. I'm 1 minute in, and it's giving me a headache. I have to make an effort to watch the video.
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It's really horrible for me, i have to admit. I'm 1 minute in, and it's giving me a headache. I have to make an effort to watch the video.
I find OC3D outright annoying.

AdoredTV no problem for me.

He doesn't seem to have a system that is affected. That's the problem with news and reviews not talking about it really, they often don't have a system that suffers the issue frown.gif
It still shows up a little as he said when alt tabbing and even the window on another monitor went haywire... but just sweeps it under carpet biggrin.gif That stuff is certainly not supposed to be happening.

There are people with 10x0 that get that high latency from NV driver even at idle...
Edited by JackCY - 8/18/16 at 11:27am
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I find OC3D outright annoying.

AdoredTV no problem for me.

they're both just terrible biggrin.gif

but I think adoredtv is trying to be much more analytical.
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Scottish ....its not that bad.....

haha I thought he was friggin Egyptian or something
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they're both just terrible biggrin.gif

but I think adoredtv is trying to be much more analytical.
haha I thought he was friggin Egyptian or something

Egyptian biggrin.gif
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Still the same latency here as before, but i have never had any stuttering though. I noticed that the core clock of my GPu dropped appr. 100 MHz. Don't know if it's the anniversery update or the new driver? Anybody else who have this problem?

I run with a MSI gtx 1070 gaming X
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Still getting the issue of audio pops and cracks from time to time in games and videos, the latest driver is not much different than the hotfix. Does anniversary update actually help (I didn't install it myself yet)?
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I find OC3D outright annoying.

AdoredTV no problem for me.

He doesn't seem to have a system that is affected. That's the problem with news and reviews not talking about it really, they often don't have a system that suffers the issue frown.gif
It still shows up a little as he said when alt tabbing and even the window on another monitor went haywire... but just sweeps it under carpet biggrin.gif That stuff is certainly not supposed to be happening.

There are people with 10x0 that get that high latency from NV driver even at idle...

Hey, I was testing the 980 Ti under Latencymon.. its not affected at all. As soon as I throw in my 1070, the program shows spikes. I honestly think I'll just keep the 980 Ti at this point. It performs slightly better (boost clocks out of the box are 1400MHz) than a 1.9GHz 1070, so honestly, I think I'll stick with smooth gaming. I know we're not allowed to swear on the forums, but I really want to drop an f bomb whenever someone mentions Pascal. What a disaster.

EDIT: Seemed like the new driver fixed my 1070... No more stuttering. Guess I'll keep it. Still sucks for those who are affected, and I hope NVIDIA really steps up their game, because if AMD releases a 1070-ish card for cheaper, I know I'm going back.
Edited by Noirgheos - 8/19/16 at 11:00pm
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Hey, I was testing the 980 Ti under Latencymon.. its not affected at all. As soon as I throw in my 1070, the program shows spikes. I honestly think I'll just keep the 980 Ti at this point. It performs slightly better (boost clocks out of the box are 1400MHz) than a 1.9GHz 1070, so honestly, I think I'll stick with smooth gaming. I know we're not allowed to swear on the forums, but I really want to drop an f bomb whenever someone mentions Pascal. What a disaster.

EDIT: Seemed like the new driver fixed my 1070... No more stuttering. Guess I'll keep it. Still sucks for those who are affected, and I hope NVIDIA really steps up their game, because if AMD releases a 1070-ish card for cheaper, I know I'm going back.

Agree it is a disaster...However newer drivers seem to be helping a little but for me it too little too late ....

Now back to the adored Video re DPC I do appreciate him taking the time to test and get more info out there ....but as i posted this to a question in the nvidia forums thought i would share on here too for peeps on here...

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I was ask the question do i agree with his conclusion....I quote ben1985
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"Do you agree with his conclusion though? All of the games I have tested have been using windowed-borderless mode with LatencyMon on a second display. However, the "highest reported DPC execution time" still frequently fluctuates between 250-500μs. So, in his instance, sure, not using alt+tab reduced his latency, but to conclude that it's a case of "one or two people" experiencing the issue and that everyone else is on the bandwagon (and too stupid to utilise multiple displays) is presumptuous at best, and hardly an "open and shut" case. What's amusing about AdoredTV's videos, is that he acts like he's had an epiphany whenever he does something unremarkable. He acted like he was Steve Wozniak when he created a simple automation script in Python that parses CSV files, and now he is acting like he has split the atom by using common sense (i.e. utilising multiple displays) whilst testing. Talk about the blind leading the blind. "

Yes agree with what you are saying
..And that yes he is making out to be that the problem is caused by peeps alt tabbing ect giving false results ....He himself is not having any issue's with his system or does not see the problem/s which i doubt is not the case..

Re 2nd monitor alt tab ect I kind of ignored that tbh as the tests i have done have been by running the program game ect and then exit with no alt tabbing if i want to monitor real-time what the dpc is doing then yes a 2nd monitor is used but using a 2nd monitor is adding more load to the gpu and for testing purposes i usually run with out

Yes you can run the pc with all power states disabled ect so to reduce DPC ...but one should not have too so to have a working system or with reduced DPC ect the real culprits here are Intel M$ Nvidia not optimizing there drivers correctly to work as they should with all power states on and with low dpc ..

i mainly do this for my DAW systems among other tweaks but this is done via added power management tweaks rather than bios disabled states. Again a pc should not have to use extra power to run correctly it is a feature after all and as been around for many years

But me and you know the problem is real along with god knows how many others me myself have had & still am having issues with over 20 different builds (yes i am the person he mentioned in the vid) ....with any 10 card installed ....but the new driver as been able to rid some of them ...but problems do still exist ....

Re band wagon you will get this with everything and yes he is being a little bit harsh on that but what i am happy for is that he as taken the time to investigate and yes even though he himself did not have any issues yet! the point is there is more info re dpc and the 10's out there.....

Basically if he had been in my shoes for a few weeks when things where really bad with these builds and the flac from my clients iwas getting he would certainly be singing a different tune that's for sure.

the moral of all this is that with GFX cards and the majority of new released games we have just become Paying beta testers and these companies who rely heavily on the net and to provide updates patches ...to which they are releasing there products far too soon. ect ..just get em out the door is the term...games i can understand and tbh where only talking what £20 to £60 ect..but when it comes to these 10 series GFX cards from nvidia its a whole different ball park when most of these cards are over £400+ that is the problem ...

for that price i would expect very few issues
Edited by harney - 8/20/16 at 4:29am
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