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Well I saw it recorded and it is horrible, whether you can see the stutter or not, I can.
And so far it seems Pascal related as older GPUs aren't affected by the new drivers to stutter as well.
post #282 of 1679
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Originally Posted by ChevChelios View Post

first 2 were fixed

most ppl dont get any stutter on Pascal, only some do

The RX 480 didn't had issues with all Polaris cards, most motherboards as cheap as they could be didn't had the slightest issue with the 480 consumption, plus only the 8GB version was affected by the PCIe issue, you make it sound like you think this pascal issue isn't important because "most ppl don't get any stutter, only some do", by your logic the RX 480 issue was even less important because even less people would have had any issue, and yet it was blown out of proportion anyway.
post #283 of 1679
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Originally Posted by JackCY View Post

So what are the remaining 2 issues and what drivers fixed the DP and DVI issues? So I can check the driver change log for them. The stutter seems pretty common to me, they noticed it but no fix yet? Do they at least accept the cards back no questions asked for now? I doubt that.

1-) The DPC Huge latency average with even bigger spikes, leading to stuttering in most cases (I can only imagine that at 60Hz monitors the stuttering wouldn't be present because the DPC spikes would need to be twice as big to be noticeable on 60Hz compared to 120Hz for example, the higher the framerate the more sensitive to DPC latency and prone to stuttering because of it.

2-) Pascal Fan Revving issues

https://www.techpowerup.com/222895/nvidia-gtx-1080-founders-edition-owners-complain-of-fan-revving-issues

3-) Nvidia Pascal VR problems:

http://www.tomshardware.com/news/nvidia-gtx-1080-vr-boost,32235.html

4-) Nvidia Pascal Pixel Clock Problems.

https://www.techpowerup.com/223669/geforce-gtx-pascal-faces-high-dvi-pixel-clock-booting-problems

I find it amusing that nobody knows about these Pascal deal breaking issues but everyone, absolutely everyone knows about the RX 480 consuming 4W more than it should over the PCIe while gaming (More when running games like Metro at MSAA X4 4K using all possible VRAM).

Pascal is al let without a doubt the buggiest GPU architecture ever launched.

Amusing indeed.
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Originally Posted by Phixit View Post

Isn't pixel clock been fixed with the last drivers ?

Don't know if that's been fixed already, but my point is the RX 480 single and only issue (PCIe) that was long fixed now, it tainted the card so much with a huge Internet uproar.

All the while Pascal had 5 different deal breaking, each arguably worse than the RX 480 PCIe issue and I haven't heard a single beep about it, only praises, and a budget big enough to put a man on Mars.
Edited by Dargonplay - 7/15/16 at 3:42pm
post #284 of 1679
Isn't pixel clock been fixed with the last drivers ?
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Ok, I'm kind of lost here. I used the latency tool last night and sure enough, it gave me the warning.

Today, I can't make it do the same. I still have my buddy's 2nd Zotac 1080 in my system until I see him Sunday for golf.

I even turned on some stuff like gpu-z and precision-x so anyone who looks at my pic sees there is a 1080 in the system being used.

If you're having the issue, please post a screen shot with gpu-z and the latency tool open and then we can link the thread at the Nvidia website so they see we're not making this up.

Dargonplay, you started the thread. Can you post a shot like this with both your 1070 and 290 please?

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Originally Posted by mcg75 View Post

The press uses whatever it can to manipulate the user base.

When you bash AMD, you basically qualify the purchase made by 75% of the discrete gpu market.

They take it and run with it as "proof" they bought a better product and tell everyone.

That's some brutal honesty right there. thumb.gif
post #287 of 1679
Worse i have had so far 2nd 1080 G1 tested worse than my 1st one again tested in 2 other pc's


Edited by harney - 7/15/16 at 4:26pm
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Originally Posted by Dargonplay View Post

1-) The DPC Huge latency average with even bigger spikes, leading to stuttering in most cases (I can only imagine that at 60Hz monitors the stuttering wouldn't be present because the DPC spikes would need to be twice as big to be noticeable on 60Hz compared to 120Hz for example, the higher the framerate the more sensitive to DPC latency and prone to stuttering because of it.

2-) Pascal Fan Revving issues

https://www.techpowerup.com/222895/nvidia-gtx-1080-founders-edition-owners-complain-of-fan-revving-issues

3-) Nvidia Pascal VR problems:

http://www.tomshardware.com/news/nvidia-gtx-1080-vr-boost,32235.html

4-) Nvidia Pascal Pixel Clock Problems.

https://www.techpowerup.com/223669/geforce-gtx-pascal-faces-high-dvi-pixel-clock-booting-problems

I find it amusing that nobody knows about these Pascal deal breaking issues but everyone, absolutely everyone knows about the RX 480 consuming 4W more than it should over the PCIe while gaming (More when running games like Metro at MSAA X4 4K using all possible VRAM).

Pascal is al let without a doubt the buggiest GPU architecture ever launched.

Amusing indeed.
Don't know if that's been fixed already, but my point is the RX 480 single and only issue (PCIe) that was long fixed now, it tainted the card so much with a huge Internet uproar.

All the while Pascal had 5 different deal breaking, each arguably worse than the RX 480 PCIe issue and I haven't heard a single beep about it, only praises, and a budget big enough to put a man on Mars.

Forgot to add DisplayPort and HTC Vive issues to the list. mad.gif
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Just put together my new rig, waiting for my 1070! Hopefully nvidia releases a fix or I don't have the issue.
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is this bad? it's saying it IS having problems
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