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According to Manuel Guzman, NVIDIA's rep on Geforce.com forum :
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A fix will not make it in time for the next driver so it will likely be included as part of the following driver. If a fix is ready and validated much sooner I will push for a hotfix driver to get it out to everyone as soon as possible.
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It varies (DPS latency) by users configurations/drivers. If you see it on your system, swapping it for another 1080 card would give you the same DPC numbers. Our drivers are within Microsoft Windows specification for DPC but we are able to reduce it which should address this issue for users.

https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/941579/geforce-1000-series/gtx-1080-high-dpc-latency-and-stuttering
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Ok guys sorry to burst your bubble blaming the card/hardware on this one

I have dual boot win7/win10 2 different hdds but same system tho same overclocks same configuration...

In idle my win10 is good no problems whats o ever i have few spikes but thats expected..


Win 10



Left on idle couple of minutes no problems as you see, then boot up heaven let it run a couple of more minutes still behaving the same..

BrB booting into win7 and behold the mess XD

here it didnt took that long

Win 7


Same Drivers (368.39), Same system
Edited by zGunBLADEz - 7/16/16 at 6:25am
post #323 of 1679
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Originally Posted by Phixit View Post

According to Manuel Guzman, NVIDIA's rep on Geforce.com forum :

https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/941579/geforce-1000-series/gtx-1080-high-dpc-latency-and-stuttering

yes not good so looking like 1 to 2 months before this is fixed then
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yes not good so looking like 1 to 2 months before this is fixed then

Well, he said "much sooner".

Hopefully it will be the case. They still need time to test the solution.
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Ok guys sorry to burst your bubble blaming the card/hardware on this one

I have dual boot win7/win10 2 different hdds but same system tho same overclocks same configuration...

In idle my win10 is good no problems whats o ever i have few spikes but thats expected..




Left on idle couple of minutes no problems as you see, then boot up heaven let it run a couple of more minutes still behaving the same..

BrB booting into win7 and behold the mess XD

No bubbles burst

however i have tested a few cards now in four different systems same issue for me as soon as i place any other card amd 480 or Nv 9 or 6 series card in no issue as it should be as soon as a 1070/ 80 go's in high DPC

what are your power options ie are your power states disabled in bios or in high performance in windows ?

Not sure what to do as i have three pc's for clients to go out to them next week not good really
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No bubbles burst

however i have tested a few cards now in four different systems same issue for me as soon as i place any other card amd 480 or Nv 9 or 6 series card in no issue as it should be as soon as a 1070/ 80 go's in high DPC

what are your power options ie are your power states disabled in bios or in high performance in windows ?

Not sure what to do as i have three pc's for clients to out next week no good really

I uploaded the win 7 latency mon screenie..
Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
Win 7


Same Drivers (368.39), Same system

Yes, same power saving features on windows (balanced) same bios settings on both tests..
I use static volts not adaptive, intel saving power features are enable on bios.

This is a software issue and not hardware as i have no problems in win10.. My win 7 is almost 2 years old installation tho.
Edited by zGunBLADEz - 7/16/16 at 6:31am
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No bubbles burst

however i have tested a few cards now in four different systems same issue for me as soon as i place any other card amd 480 or Nv 9 or 6 series card in no issue as it should be as soon as a 1070/ 80 go's in high DPC

what are your power options ie are your power states disabled in bios or in high performance in windows ?
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Originally Posted by zGunBLADEz View Post

I uploaded the win 7 latency mon screenie..

Yes, same power saving features on windows (balanced) same bios settings on both tests..

This is a software issue and not hardware as i have no problems in win10.. My win 7 is almost 2 years old installation tho.

Yes its Nv driver for sure

not sure what's going on then you must be lucky on the win 10 one i see the win 7 one as it

i have a few new builds here clean installs win 7 / 10 different motherboards even tried with no other driver installed ect just the nvidia driver on but all have the issues like i said as soon as i place any other card that's not a 10 series card the problem has gone a non issue as soon as the 10's go back in its back frown.gif
Edited by harney - 7/16/16 at 6:36am
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I've been hearing sudden "cracks/pop" listening to music/spotify once in a while but aside from that everything is perfect

Likely the NVIDIA drivers, given they are listed has having the singular highest time.
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Originally Posted by jprovido View Post

at full load it says "no problem" with latencymon. I'm only having latency problems at idle

The issue primarily exists at lower GPU power states.
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I've disabled the Realtek HD audio driver long back since I have an external dac+amp. I removed the Killer interface thingy, so I only have the network driver. I'm playing with pagefile (On, off, auto). But nothing is helping.

You need new/different network drivers.

Also, check the driver tab of LatencyMon and sort by "highest execution time".
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Originally Posted by Cyro999 View Post

Most RAM scaling games actually see more gains from frequency than latency AFAIK.

More frequency than timings, generally. Latency depends on both.
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Originally Posted by magnek View Post

1866 CL11 already beats 1600 CL7 in everything except memory latency, and even then it only trails by 2.8% (54.4 ns vs 52.9 ns).

But if you're really that concerned about timings, I'd start working on that tRFC right away. wink.gif
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I wont prove you wrong right now, I will in a later date, when it isn't almost 6 AM, but yes, everyone should work on their tRFC, considering I have it down to 230

tRFC is how much time is given to refreshing memory cells. Lowest tRFC you can run is heavily dependent on the density of the individual ICs in use. Going too low can create serious, but hard to diagnose, stability issues as some loads can easily drain an incomplete refresh before the next refresh interval, causing the contents to be zeroed.

When it comes to performance the precise interaction of timings and frequency are going to depend on the IMC, exact memory topology, and what timings are adjusted by how much.

It generally takes significant reductions in timings to match the latency reduction of modest increases in frequency. A frequency increase applies to every single operation DRAM does. No timing, or even group of timings, does.

Currently I run DDR4-2667 12-11-12-26-T1 with extremely tight secondary and tertiary timings...it's about as fast as XMP timings on most DDR-3200 C15 all other things being equal. However, with a bit of tweaking most DDR4 that can reach ~3200 will be faster in everything, even in actual latency, even if primary timings increase proportionally more than frequency. Of course, since these Micron ICs crap out around 2800 C15, I am way better off with 2667 C12.
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having a right nightmare with this, I do a lot of Audio work and produce music when I am not gaming, and my 1070 is causing Studio One to crash left right and centre frown.gif
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having a right nightmare with this, I do a lot of Audio work and produce music when I am not gaming, and my 1070 is causing Studio One to crash left right and centre frown.gif

All i can advise is disable the 1070 when doing audio work and use Intel gpu on cpu if you have it (just seen your sig so you have) and when gaming enable the 1070

then wait till drivers are sorted ...

please fill feed back out more they have = more pressure to resolve it

http://surveys.nvidia.com/index.jsp?pi=6e7ea6bb4a02641fa8f07694a40f8ac6
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