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My goal is to move the Program Files folders and ProgramData off my SSD and onto my D: drive. I used to install Windows 7 using this method all the time without any problems. I achieve this by copying the Program Files folders and ProgramData folder to the D: drive (using a Live Ubuntu USB, and then deleting the original folders from the C: drive. After that I boot back into Windows and create junction points back to the C: drive. I also change the paths of those folders in the registry and in environment variables. When I do this in Windows 10, the Windows Apps (such as the Windows Store and Weather) won't open. Also Microsoft Edge fails to open as well. Is there any method to get the Apps running again after moving those directories? I've spent full days trying to solve this problem and any help or suggestions are appreciated!
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Why do you want to move Program Files folders and ProgramData to the hard drive? Is it to avoid hurting your SSD? Is it to free up space? I mean, if you're trying to avoid hurting your solid state drive, then I have some great news for you: you will never be able to hurt it:

 

http://techreport.com/review/27909/the-ssd-endurance-experiment-theyre-all-dead

 

So, if that's your reason for moving these things to a hard drive, then you're wasting your time, and this article proves it. If you're trying to free up space, then maybe it's time to buy a solid state drive that has a larger capacity.

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The article you linked was an interesting read, thanks for that. The reason I want to accomplish this set up is mostly due to capacity. I run a computer repair company in Chicago (www.globalcomputercare.net) and if I can figure this issue out I can continue to sell my customers small capacity SSDs accompanied by a large capacity HDD. This is a MUCH cheaper route than purchasing a 2TB SSD (Approx $140 compared to $640)! For my customers computers it's important that when they want to install programs, it's intuitive and what they are used to. Also, I am more concerned that the SSD will slow down over time, not necessarily that it will die on me.
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The article you linked was an interesting read, thanks for that. The reason I want to accomplish this set up is mostly due to capacity. I run a computer repair company in Chicago (www.globalcomputercare.net) and if I can figure this issue out I can continue to sell my customers small capacity SSDs accompanied by a large capacity HDD. This is a MUCH cheaper route than purchasing a 2TB SSD (Approx $140 compared to $640)! For my customers computers it's important that when they want to install programs, it's intuitive and what they are used to. Also, I am more concerned that the SSD will slow down over time, not necessarily that it will die on me.

 

Who needs a 2 TB solid state drive? A 250-500 GB drive should suffice for most people - it should be much more than enough. Then they can have a huge hard drive as their D drive for whatever won't fit on the solid state drive. You want as much as you can get on the solid state drive for maximum performance.

 

It will not slow down over time. I have one of the worst solid state drives that have been made (the 840 EVO), and even though I'm keeping everything on it, it's still fine after having it since the 840 EVO was new to the market.

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The article you linked was an interesting read, thanks for that. The reason I want to accomplish this set up is mostly due to capacity. I run a computer repair company in Chicago (www.globalcomputercare.net) and if I can figure this issue out I can continue to sell my customers small capacity SSDs accompanied by a large capacity HDD. This is a MUCH cheaper route than purchasing a 2TB SSD (Approx $140 compared to $640)! For my customers computers it's important that when they want to install programs, it's intuitive and what they are used to. Also, I am more concerned that the SSD will slow down over time, not necessarily that it will die on me.

You should probably learn how hardware works before running a computer business.
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You should probably learn how hardware works before running a computer business.

 

Dude, that was harsh. Are you going to help at all?

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Dude, that was harsh. Are you going to help at all?

Yeah, Windows 10 is retarded and if you mess with the structure the app store and apps break. Best advice reimage the computer fresh and don't do registry edits this time around, throw in a 500gb ssd for $100 and call it a day.
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First of all, it's the software I'm trying to figure out, not the hardware. Maybe you should refresh yourself on the difference between the two. It's all cool though man, hate all you want from your Computer Administrator position but I'm trying to make moves in life. If you understand so much about hardware, how come you are working for somebody else? Anyway, do you have any information to contribute or do you just reply to questions you can't answer so you can try and feel better about yourself? Obviously I'm on here asking for help so that I can understand better!
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First of all, it's the software I'm trying to figure out, not the hardware. Maybe you should refresh yourself on the difference between the two. It's all cool though man, hate all you want from your Computer Administrator position but I'm trying to make moves in life. If you understand so much about hardware, how come you are working for somebody else? Anyway, do you have any information to contribute or do you just reply to questions you can't answer so you can try and feel better about yourself? Obviously I'm on here asking for help so that I can understand better!

I am more concerned that the SSD will slow down over time.

that's hardware. and why would I want to try to own a computer store that fluctuates when I can get a stable salary? And I did reply to your questions, Windows 10 doesn't like for settings to be changed and it breaks the app store, apps, hell even the start button sometimes. Best advice reimage the computer and just throw in a 500GB ssd.
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Yeah, Windows 10 is retarded and if you mess with the structure the app store and apps break. Best advice reimage the computer fresh and don't do registry edits this time around, throw in a 500gb ssd for $100 and call it a day.

It just doesn't make sense that I can link the same files back to the original location and they fail to run. It works fine for everything else and has always worked in Windows 7 when there was no apps. I'm thinking it might be a permissions issue. I tried playing around with different permission settings based on some info I found online, but nothing worked. I was hoping someone who better understood how WindowsApps and Permissions worked would have some input.
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