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How will the 480 continue to pick up speed when DX12 is much, much less driver dependent than DX11? Hell, since a large part of DX12 is just Mantle I honestly cant see GCN getting much faster than it already is. I would like to be wrong, but I digress.
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How will the 480 continue to pick up speed when DX12 is much, much less driver dependent than DX11? Hell, since a large part of DX12 is just Mantle I honestly cant see GCN getting much faster than it already is. I would like to be wrong, but I digress.

Pretty simple considering how new dx12 and mantle are that as they improve so will all gcn cards. Especially since gcn has the most benefits from dx12/mantle compared to nvidia.
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How will the 480 continue to pick up speed when DX12 is much, much less driver dependent than DX11? Hell, since a large part of DX12 is just Mantle I honestly cant see GCN getting much faster than it already is. I would like to be wrong, but I digress.
Because the majority of DX12 are still using FL11_0 as their engine core.
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The reference is already within 10%. It's not like a custom card will do worse than reference.
Unless... Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
AMD board partners

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Please 1060 age a bit better than the last x60 gpus. tongue.gif
Blasphemy.

Please don't start the DX11,12 and FL11,12,12_0,12_1, ... again. What is important is the switch from DX11 to low level APIs doesn't matter really what FL it is though the Tiers can help performance wise but that is not FL.
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How will the 480 continue to pick up speed when DX12 is much, much less driver dependent than DX11? Hell, since a large part of DX12 is just Mantle I honestly cant see GCN getting much faster than it already is. I would like to be wrong, but I digress.

I think that's a valid point.

Developers would have to get fancy with GCN specific stuff in order to further improve performance over time for their engines/titles, but I don't think that will be the case.

The good news for AMD is that GCN, as of right now, is better suited for low level optimizations than NVIDIA's Maxwell/Pascal SKUs, so their cards will probably perform better than NVIDIA's offerings at each price point.
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I wish people would actually examine reviews other than just glossing at the graphs.
Especially those that love to post up different review charts and claim them as gospel.

It's disappointing how bad reviews have become. The narrative of the reviews themselves, even the order of the test samples in some charts are pretty disingenuous. Driver versions, game selections, test platforms and methodology is not even listed on more than a couple of the larger sites I looked at earlier today.
Only [H], Hardware Canucks and Tom's used the 16.7.2 driver in their 1060 reviews out of the 8 I think it was that I looked at.
Gone are the days of good reviews. Few users actually post up their own anymore. These sites that average all of their tests together to get a single percentage number are doing a disservice to the enthusiast community as a whole IMO. The desire for their free hardware samples and site clicks are pretty obvious. The review guides the manufacturer supplies with the hardware are proof enough. It's all an arm of the marketing. Sadly that's all that's needed though to feed the zealotry that many exhibit in order to have bragging rights.
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I would never buy a gX106 chip. Call me a fanboy or anything but the last 4 years every single gpu from nvidia on this segment was bad.

660 - GK106 Mediocre compared to AMD offers
660ti (yes i know it is GK104) - It aged like milk. I cant understand why people bought 660ti instead of 7950 back then
760- Mediocre
960- So bad compared to competition. And probably it's the gpu that sold the most.

I expect the same tbh. I am hoping that i am wrong because i dont want people that spent money on a product to not get the absolute best performance out of their money.

Please 1060 age a bit better than the last x60 gpus. tongue.gif

Totally agree with you there but I would say that the 560Ti was a great little card, especially the 448...
post #328 of 860
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So the 480 and 1060 don't come close to the 980? The reference 480 cooler is garbage and it's still only 6% slower than the 1060, in DX11.. If you're lumping the 480 in the 970's camp then you may as well do the same with the 1060, one can't be a failure and the other a monumental success.

I didn't say it doesn't come close. But the 480 posted numbers closer to the 970 than it did the 980. It performed, on average, 7% faster than the 970. Add that to the price of the 970, and it's nowhere near $449-$499. That's the only point i was trying to make.
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in what planet? the 480 was compared to mythical limit break 1500mhz 970 which is = stock 980. what world is the 480 only 7% faster than a 970?
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I didn't say it doesn't come close. But the 480 posted numbers closer to the 970 than it did the 980. It performed, on average, 7% faster than the 970. Add that to the price of the 970, and it's nowhere near $449-$499. That's the only point i was trying to make.

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The 970 (which is primarily what the RX 480 is compared to) costed that much a few months ago? Even if you take the small lead that the RX 480 has over the 970, it doesn't even come close to $449 performance.

Actually, that's exactly what you said..

If you also read the context of my post you'll see that i strongly hinted at avoiding the reference 480's (except the 4GB $199 one), as they throttle badly. I was giving my thought on the AIB's..
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