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I have 1st version of triX cooler, and my VRM's don't go above 80c.

Just need to run the right (or wrong, depending on perspective) tests.
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Never seen a matrix 20 phase. Or simply a asus with vrm failure. Seen plenty of dead sapphire.

And my dual x soldering seen like junk compared to windforce and they are both low end.

Go on mining forum and report back how many dead sapphire you seen. People with over 20 had like 50% failure rate. I will never get a sapphire product again. Cheap soldering. Their website was 15 years old bot so long ago he just got updated. And their sleeve bearing fan is crap too

Both my Sapphire HD 4870s are still perfectly funcitonal, same goes for my 7870 XT, all of my 7950s and 7970s were great cards (one 7950 had some bad coil whine though and one of the fans died). In fact my 7970 OC (black PCB) did 1280 on air and when I sold it to TSM he got the card up to 1380 on water.

The sapphire Vapor-X and Toxic lines have some of the best custom VRM designs next to the lightning and the matrix. I've owned several Tri-X 290s, a Vapor-X 290 (coolest card I've owned), and Tri-X Fury (quietest card I've ever owned). I expect the Nitro line to pretty much replace the Tri-X line, with the Vapor-X being their higher end cards, and if and when they decide to release another Toxic card being their highest end board (Lightning/Matrix status).

But back to the point, you pick your example based off 24/7 mining conditions which is arguably worse than running Furmark 24/7, with several cards sandwiched millimeters away from one another and claim the heat created by this to be the general user experience rolleyes.gif.

You should also note that Sapphire is by far the largest AIB supplier for AMD; yours is a terrible way to compare failure/rma rates when Sapphire eclipses ASUS in terms of sales for AMD/ATi cards.

AIB partners are not going to re-create the wheel for entry-mid level GPUs, all you've really done by posting is show how little understanding you have of GPU's and or the GPU industry. Extra points to you for using blanket generalizations with no actual facts or links to back up your awful claims.
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Diamond choke.. that marketing. A choke is a choke.

Asus use high quality cap choke vrm in most of their product. Not sapphire

Also, this statement is utter gold biggrin.gif, go home you're drunk!
Edited by rv8000 - 7/12/16 at 1:51pm
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Sapphire X800GTO still works fine.
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Asus use cheap rebranded stuff with cool names most of the time...
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But back to the point, you pick your example based off 24/7 mining conditions which is arguably worse than running Furmark 24/7, with several cards sandwiched millimeters away from one another

While a lot of mining cards were used like this, it was far from universal.

Optimal hashrate/watt is achieved with fairly substantial undervolting and a modest underclock. Very early on in the Bitcoin boom, electricity costs weren't a huge concern, but by the time GPU miners had switched over to scrypt currencies, it was. The 7950s and 290Xs in my mining boxes were run at 80% fan speed while consuming maybe half to two-thirds their stock TDPs in power and rarely saw more than 60C on core or VRM in a 30C room.

I could get 800-900Khash/s out of a 290X at 130-150w, or 1Mhash/s out of a 290X at 250-300w. I almost always chose the former.
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Both my Sapphire HD 4870s are still perfectly funcitonal, same goes for my 7870 XT, all of my 7950s and 7970s were great cards (one 7950 had some bad coil whine though and one of the fans died). In fact my 7970 OC (black PCB) did 1280 on air and when I sold it to TSM he got the card up to 1380 on water.

The sapphire Vapor-X and Toxic lines have some of the best custom VRM designs next to the lightning and the matrix. I've owned several Tri-X 290s, a Vapor-X 290 (coolest card I've owned), and Tri-X Fury (quietest card I've ever owned). I expect the Nitro line to pretty much replace the Tri-X line, with the Vapor-X being their higher end cards, and if and when they decide to release another Toxic card being their highest end board (Lightning/Matrix status).

But back to the point, you pick your example based off 24/7 mining conditions which is arguably worse than running Furmark 24/7, with several cards sandwiched millimeters away from one another and claim the heat created by this to be the general user experience rolleyes.gif.

You should also note that Sapphire is by far the largest AIB supplier for AMD; yours is a terrible way to compare failure/rma rates when Sapphire eclipses ASUS in terms of sales for AMD/ATi cards.

AIB partners are not going to re-create the wheel for entry-mid level GPUs, all you've really done by posting is show how little understanding you have of GPU's and or the GPU industry. Extra points to you for using blanket generalizations with no actual facts or links to back up your awful claims.
Also, this statement is utter gold biggrin.gif, go home you're drunk!



Who is the first to use automated soldering?


Asus


All i have to says.
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Guys stop it with this arguing.
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Who is the first to use automated soldering?


Asus


All i have to says.

Wait, you think all the manufacturers of PCBs hand solder stuff still today? All besides ASUS?
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A poor comment? Do i need to remember you that most sapphire stuff has vrm in the 100c

Fury for example.

Anyways if the rx 480 really overclock we need minimum 6 phase and a 8 would be perfect.

Diamond choke.. that marketing. A choke is a choke.

Asus use high quality cap choke vrm in most of their product. Not sapphire

ASUS and quality do not belong in the same sentence, at least where AMD is concerned. It wasn't too long ago that they decided to slap an NVIDIA cooler onto an AMD card and sell it as the R9 290(X) Direct CUII.

Look carefully at the heatpipes, do you see the problem?

    
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Then they did the opposite for 980 Ti -- slapped on the Fury (non-X) cooler and just changed the location of some standoffs. In fact the 980 Ti Strix cooler was so bad the memory chips didn't have any cooling. bigeyedsmiley.png



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