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Originally Posted by Glottis View Post

not true. digital foundry results use async (tssaa enabled as they clearly state)




digital foundry difference between 980ti and fury x is 7.5%

computerbase.de difference between 980ti and fury x is ~35%

that was my point. i'm wondering which publication is lying?


Gamegpu is not. So add the performance boost from async to those scores and you have scores that look like computerbase. It looks like the results.you are favoring are the odd ones out.

Not that it matters much as it Vulkan has just shot AMD's already world leading perf/$ through the roof with any of.these results.
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Different maps, different amount of aa maybe ? funny to see a website getting a blame for something fishy where other times they are used by nvidia fans. loool

The guy is making a fair assumption basing it off the fact that other review sites don't show the same discrepancy in their results. It's the AMD fans running up yelling that Async isn't active.. or they used these settings and not these ones.
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not true. digital foundry results use async (tssaa enabled as they clearly state)




digital foundry difference between 980ti and fury x is 7.5%

computerbase.de difference between 980ti and fury x is ~35%

that was my point. i'm wondering which publication is lying?

Before you try to push the DF results as absolute fact in order to find a conspiracy, here's some quotes from their article.
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Our initial tests suggest anything from a 30 to 40 per cent increase in gaming performance for Radeon users but these are rough, initial numbers. It could actually be higher.
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There's just one problem here - there is no support for FCAT right now in Doom itself or via Vulkan in general, while the game's OSD cumulative GPU render time average didn't seem to work for us on AMD hardware. To get some numbers together, we used a very simple approach - to visit three very different scenes and to measure the performance differential across a range of GPUs.
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It can only be considered as a very basic way to judge the potential differential
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And we should stress again that we've only tested here on a small selection of relatively light scenes. What's clear is that AMD's CPU utilisation has dropped significantly, so there may be even bigger gains in more action-packed scenes.

Their wording implies they're not 100% confident in their results.
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The guy is making a fair assumption basing it off the fact that other review sites don't show the same discrepancy in their results. It's the AMD fans running up yelling that Async isn't active.. or they used these settings and not these ones.
And both are right. his assumption and that those websites are using different settings. but what i find funny here is this kind of assumptions doesn't show every time. but only when nvidia looses.
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Before you try to push the DF results as absolute fact in order to find a conspiracy, here's some quotes from their article.



Their wording implies they're not 100% confident in their results.
and let me guess, computerbase.de results ofcourse are 100% confident. if you bothered to read into what they aren't confident about is because they couldn't use FCAT measure, because it's not yet available for vulcant. but you know what, neither could computerbase.de biggrin.gif
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and let me guess, computerbase.de results ofcourse are 100% confident biggrin.gif

No, but infranoia's results and tons of others all over the web are saying they are getting gains closer to theirs/exceeding them.
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And both are right. his assumption and that those websites are using different settings. but what i find funny here is this kind of assumptions doesn't show every time. but only when nvidia looses.
I hear ya.

But you and I have differing opinions of Nvidia losing. That's not what I see in that graph. wink.gif
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I like how GameGPU results either get promoted or summarily dismissed depending on how convenient their results are to the intended narrative.
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I like how GameGPU results either get promoted or summarily dismissed depending on how convenient their results are to the intended narrative.

If the point of Doom Vulkan is Async Compute, then they're not valid to the test.

If the point of Doom Vulkan is to test Vulkan baseline without Async Compute, perhaps to 'level the field' against Nvidia, then sure, they're perfectly valid.

That is, until id 'fixes' the error and enables Async Compute on the other AA modes, as they said they would. Then what? Wait for Nvidia to come up with that mythical AC driver before declaring any AC benchmark valid? Gameworks indeed.

I am really very, very curious how 3dmark is going to handle this.
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BTW, did not one pick up in this chart that 370, even without async, beats 780ti? That is pretty embarrassing.
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