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I think this is a good example of performance gains that can be achieved by the GPUs; a one trick pony, compared to, for example, a CPU. However, I wouldn't be surprised if Nvidia (and/or AMD?) start to "incentify" developers not to give away "free performance", since it inherently poses a threat to their business model of yesterday.... Lol
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Is there any Vulkan vs DX bechmarks? Not really interested in Vulkan vs OpenGL
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Holy smokes.

Those are some impressive gains for AMD. The 480 really shows it's weakness, here, next to past chips.. but AMD is looking much better overall. I've been waiting a long time to see what kind of performance was sitting "unused" due to Direct X stagnation.

Fiji looks spectacular until you see it's original OpenGL performance numbers. OpenGL doesn't like HBM, maybe. The gains certainly showcase Direct X limitations that have been plaguing AMD. I'm really looking forward to having an API that'll advance at the same pace AMD has been for the last few years; I hope Vulkan does can keep pace. AMD won't be the only one introducing hardware in the hopes that the industry might support it, if this keeps up. NV might start playing ball too, and bringing things to the table that can benefit all consumers.

Things are getting exciting again. I'm stoked.
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Vulkan vs DX12? Sure code your own graphic demo/benchmark in both smile.gif
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Holy smokes.

Those are some impressive gains for AMD. The 480 really shows it's weakness, here, next to past chips.. but AMD is looking much better overall. I've been waiting a long time to see what kind of performance was sitting "unused" due to Direct X stagnation.

Fiji looks spectacular until you see it's original OpenGL performance numbers. OpenGL doesn't like HBM, maybe. The gains certainly showcase Direct X limitations that have been plaguing AMD. I'm really looking forward to having an API that'll advance at the same pace AMD has been for the last few years; I hope Vulkan does can keep pace. AMD won't be the only one introducing hardware in the hopes that the industry might support it, if this keeps up. NV might start playing ball too, and bringing things to the table that can benefit all consumers.

Things are getting exciting again. I'm stoked.

Lmao, it has half the specs of those past chips...
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Lmao, it has half the specs of those past chips...
It's also a double shrink, at 14nm FF. You can get an AIB 8GB R9 390 for $259 on Newegg right now.

Sure, the TDP. But, die shrinks have always meant better TDP, price, and performance in the past. At least, it did before we took a 5 year hiatus on shrinks. It's a weak release.. especially considering it's a long overdue double shrink.
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So i tried both my 290 and 7970. Even with my 7970 and the 2 ACEs when i enable TSSAA the performance is exactly the same as SMAA.

On my xeon there is almost zero cpu bottleneck
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Then this means GCN1 wasnt taken into account for asynchronous compute. because of minimal gains or the few ACEs dont make a difference?

Dunno.
DOOM 123% Vulcan Performance Increase on R9 280x A lot of that is probably from Vulkan itself but that's a massive improvement.

Is the compute option checked in the settings sugar?
Edited by pengs - 7/12/16 at 4:49pm
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Is there any Vulkan vs DX bechmarks? Not really interested in Vulkan vs OpenGL

Vulkan and DX12 should be pretty much the same; they have pretty similar designs and goals, they're both inspired by/based on Mantle, etc. DX12 has the advantage of XB1 support and MS' blessing, Vulkan has the advantage of Windows 7-8.1, Linux, and Android (and possibly macOS/iOS at some point in the future, if Apple decides to start supporting it). There are some other technical details that might become important in the future, especially with regard to extensions and feature levels, but as far as right now, the performance should be close enough between the two that it doesn't really matter.
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It's also a double shrink, at 14nm FF. You can get an AIB 8GB R9 390 for $259 on Newegg right now.

Sure, the TDP. But, die shrinks have always meant better TDP, price, and performance in the past. At least, it did before we took a 5 year hiatus on shrinks. It's a weak release.. especially considering it's a long overdue double shrink.
390 is always working too close to its power limit, so just like the tonga series gpus, the dilemma of picking between the lesser of the two evils comes at a premium.
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390 is always working too close to its power limit, so just like the tonga series gpus, the dilemma of picking between the lesser of the two evils comes at a premium.
I don't recall any issues like that. I recall the reference 290 coming with new software to throttle clocks as it approached thermal limits, but never problems with power limits like the 480 appears to have.

I'd prefer the 480, of course, because of the TDP. Nevertheless, it's not hyper-critical to call the 480 a bit of a disappointment for not outperforming the 390 by a large margin considering it's roughly the same price. Die shrinks have always brought improvements to price, performance and TDP. This time around, we're only getting an improvement to TDP. No price improvement, no performance improvement.

I'm an optimist, but that's a downgrade from what we're used to seeing from die shrinks. I'm sorry, it just is.
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