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Just Started playing this game and with Vulkan at 1440p on my r9 290x at 1150mhz core and 1300mhz memory i get 70-80fps even in fire fights.
    
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It is clear that 1080 is simply still the fastest card. Nvidia has advantage in pure power there, so even with failure of an architectural features, it wins.

But. I'd be seriously concerned about Vega. Such an early release of Titan XP announces NV's fear.

I have to laugh at comments like these.

If nVidia truly feared what Vega would bring, they wouldn't be releasing a cut down Quadro reject that isn't a full chip and doesn't have 24 GB GDDR5X, then slap on a Titan name and charge $1200 for it. You're delusional if you think this signifies "fear".

No this is not "fear", this is them flaunting their market position by giving us what is essentially a 1080 Ti and charging Titan prices for it.
Edited by magnek - 7/26/16 at 3:08pm
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I think AMD just didn't have enough funds to cover development of the whole range of chips, from low to high end, at the same time. And since they didn't refresh lower end forever, they decided to go with it first. Which I think was the right decision.




I agree.
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I have to laugh at comments like these.

If nVidia truly feared what Vega would bring, they wouldn't be releasing a cut down Quadro reject that isn't a full chip and doesn't have 24 GB GDDR5X, then slap on a Titan name and charge $1200 for it. You're delusional if you think this signifies "fear".

No this is not "fear", this is them flaunting their market position by giving us what is essentially a 1080 Ti and charging Titan prices for it.

You might as well be right. wink.gif I won't pursue my original idea since it's just one happy theory. Yours is more probable.
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Sorry if I came across as a bit harsh, that wasn't my intention.
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I have to laugh at comments like these.

If nVidia truly feared what Vega would bring, they wouldn't be releasing a cut down Quadro reject that isn't a full chip and doesn't have 24 GB GDDR5X, then slap on a Titan name and charge $1200 for it. You're delusional if you think this signifies "fear".

No this is not "fear", this is them flaunting their market position by giving us what is essentially a 1080 Ti and charging Titan prices for it.

And people will buy it anyway, so who cares.
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You've got to be kidding...
HBM is not a big data set capable video buffer. The interface has absolutely zero redundancies built in for manufacturing tolerances. It is therefore having a very hesitant adoption.
Hesitant, as in being on 600$ GPU that is for enthusiasts? Ofcourse it will be having slow adoption, its a new technology that costs a lot more than the current one, and the benefits to the average Joe are... not worth it. In few years perhaps this will change.

No, Hesitant like being on the largest Tesla nVidia has ever made designed for super computers. I mean, c'mon man, duh. tongue.gif
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I'm afraid not. If that was the case, announced FirePro would use HBM. And it doesn't. So it seems this year both NV and AMD skipped HBM.
Aren't the FirePro cards just P10 and P11? It seemed that way to me, so that's G5 or G5X only. Even NV uses G5X only on the premium 1080 because it is still expensive even for them to put it into everything.

That would be correct.
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Hesitant, as in being on 600$ GPU that is for enthusiasts? Ofcourse it will be having slow adoption, its a new technology that costs a lot more than the current one, and the benefits to the average Joe are... not worth it. In few years perhaps this will change.
Hesitant as in not present in FirePRO Series due to these reasons. AMD continues to make full reference to Fury X for the enthusiast segment.

Ah crap, I knew I left that link around here somewhere...

*digging* *shuffle shuffle* Aha!

http://www.anandtech.com/show/10209/amd-announces-firepro-s9300-x2
https://www.amd.com/Documents/s9300-x2-datasheet.pdf

Oh wait, they don't use them for FirePros. Or Teslas. I'm mistaken, obviously. sad-smiley-002.gif
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Sorry if I came across as a bit harsh, that wasn't my intention.

Your explanation IS more probable, but something is bugging me there so I went that way. smile.gif I know Nvidia for stalling everything they can as long as they can. They never move further up if they don't have to. They didn't have to announce Titan yet. Quadros? Yes, but Titan may be just?? Ok, counter to AMD FirePro in professional market? Hardly with the same 12GB. Perf wise? No, AMD has Polaris, weak FirePros... Not sure why a Titan so early... and why is it made of unobtainium? (only NV distribution by a website).
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Let me guess Indie games that most of us haven't even heard of? Name them

You know both consoles support dx12 features as well as async compute? And as much as you probably Love to disbelieve, they out number all the nvidia fans out there. With that in mind, and since it's a known performance boost.... you really want to keep talking about how this isn't a big deal?

Really man, developers now gain MORE in favoring AMD this time around. So those ports, where async was already implemented?

It's no coincidence that AMD designed an architecture tailored to the big benifits they introduced into DX/Vulcan? GCN was tailored for this.
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You know both consoles support dx12 features as well as async compute?
but they have old GCN1 GPUs in them IIRC

not that much of a support compared to GCN3/4
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