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Nvidia will not stop producing 950s and 750Tis anytime soon as they will compete with RX460. 1050 however will only compete with RX470 so maybe by end of the year or early next year at $170 or $199.

When you offer a $100 game pack(that probably cost $50) on a card currently selling for $100-150 AR, it screams you are clearing stock. 1050 might not replace 950, but a GT 1040/45 might.
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Not 7790 but 750Ti.30% slower than 950 is approx 750Ti. RX460 specs are very weak so it will definitely not match 950.Also Polaris is less efficient than Maxwell let alone Pascal
Nvidia will not stop producing 950s and 750Tis anytime soon as they will compete with RX460. 1050 however will only compete with RX470 so maybe by end of the year or early next year at $170 or $199.

 

Nvidia moved both the 950 and 750ti to legacy status last week, the only Maxwell still in production according to this is the 750.

 

http://www.nvidia.com/page/legacy.html

 

Which I assume means they have sufficient stock to last until the 1040/1050 comes out.

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I think aibs should come out with the ref this time since they have been showing the aibs all over the place

So they must be made already if they have them else they wouldnt have them
post #194 of 470
Honestly, between 950 and RX 460, Id get the RX 460. Will do better in DX12/Vulkan and age better (Kepler user here).

Will replace my ATI 5770 on my ancient PC. Gotta get that Console + Witcher 3 experience on a 7 year old PC.
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so if 460/470 refs come out in August then can we expect customs in October ? biggrin.gif

The RX 460 and 470 will only be available in custom designs...

ChinaJoy 2016:





Edited by Slomo4shO - 8/1/16 at 9:19am
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Not 7790 but 750Ti.30% slower than 950 is approx 750Ti. RX460 specs are very weak so it will definitely not match 950.Also Polaris is less efficient than Maxwell let alone Pascal

If the 460 is 14CUs clocked at 1200MHz as is rumored (and doesn't throttle badly), it should be between the R7 370 (16CU@975) and R7 370X (20CU@1000) in performance; that would probably make it a little slower than the 950 on average in DX11 and equal or faster in DX12/Vulkan, and much faster in both than the 750ti or 7790.
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Not 7790 but 750Ti.30% slower than 950 is approx 750Ti. RX460 specs are very weak so it will definitely not match 950.Also Polaris is less efficient than Maxwell let alone Pascal
Nvidia will not stop producing 950s and 750Tis anytime soon as they will compete with RX460. 1050 however will only compete with RX470 so maybe by end of the year or early next year at $170 or $199.

The specs put it over a r7 370, 1.99TF vs 2.15TF. R7 370 is like 5% under the gtx 950. If it comes out 20-30% under that, there is something seriously wrong.

I'm unsure of the powerdraw of the 370, but it is a 7850 clocked 115mhz higher and the 7850 according to tpu drew 87w under average gaming load. If they simply shrunk cut pitcairn it would beat the 950 handily, and be under 75w. But this part is further cut and a different uarch, so I would once again, expect approx gtx 950 levels of performance.

Edit:also, while yes as a whole nvidia is more power efficient, at the lower levels of performance that efficiency is lost. Whereas AMD cards work the opposite. Lower tiered cards are much more efficient. As you can see by the performance difference between the 950 and 370 (pitcairn launched in 2012) and their similarity in efficiency.
Edited by tkenietz - 8/1/16 at 11:24am
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The specs put it over a r7 370, 1.99TF vs 2.15TF. R7 370 is like 5% under the gtx 950. If it comes out 20-30% under that, there is something seriously wrong.

I'm unsure of the powerdraw of the 370, but it is a 7850 clocked 115mhz higher and the 7850 according to tpu drew 87w under average gaming load. If they simply shrunk cut pitcairn it would beat the 950 handily, and be under 75w. But this part is further cut and a different uarch, so I would once again, expect approx gtx 950 levels of performance.

Edit:also, while yes as a whole nvidia is more power efficient, at the lower levels of performance that efficiency is lost. Whereas AMD cards work the opposite. Lower tiered cards are much more efficient. As you can see by the performance difference between the 950 and 370 (pitcairn launched in 2012) and their similarity in efficiency.
I wouldn't expect this to quite match the 950, it has nearly equal shader output and Nvidia cards aren't too heavy in that direction. It's essentially an arch updated 260x at a higher clock speed, it should roughly match the R9 270, it just doesn't have enough clock speed, ROPs or memory bandwidth to go against full Pitcairn.

As for efficiency, it's mostly due to the higher end cards being clocked past the optimal point. At 1150MHz the 480 would probably draw about 100W.
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R9 270 is full Pitcairn.

To set things straight:

Cut Pitcairn: 7850, R7 265, R7 370, R9 370 (OEM)
Full Pitcairn: 7870, R9 270, R9 270X, R9 370X

Makes perfect sense, right?
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There's no latency problem. Only the few guys in the topic here had that issue and NVIDIA put out a fix, or so i've heard.

Everyone has higher DPC latency with Nvidia cards and the fix only improved the situation.
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