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post #351 of 470
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You have to factor in the R&D cost instead of only just production cost. R370 is 4 years old, R&D would have recoup by then. AMD can sell those chip at lower profit margin.

it makes no sense to disable 2CU on RX460. RX460 are not even have a clear win to GTX950 now(which is selling around that price for sometime). Why would AMD want to put themselves in the situation by replacing a GPU that doesnt clearly beat their competitor 1year old product (in terms of price/performance)?

The only reasonable explanation is simple, if RX460 have 16CU @ $99, what room does it leave for those defective polaris 11 that didnt have 16CU? Sell at $69?

It is pretty clear that now, the entire polaris product stack has been push downward by Nvidia 1060. It has been squeeze from the original $100-$300 price range to $100-$200($250).

What AMD might have official MSRP
$299 = full polaris 10
$199 = cut polaris 10
$149 = full polaris 11
$99 = cut polaris 11

What the reality is now.
$199-$239 = full polaris 10
$179-$199 = cut polaris 10
$99 = cut polaris 11

Rx480 starting at $300 would have lost to the 1070 in perf/$ even at $420. If 1070 made it down to msrp you could get 53% more for $80. That would be a heck of a deal
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So the RX 460 doesn't surpass its similarly priced last gen rival, the GTX 950, in DX11 performance? Another major letdown from this lineup. RX 470 is looking good for the price though.
 
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So the RX 460 doesn't surpass its similarly priced last gen rival, the GTX 950, in DX11 performance? Another major letdown from this lineup. RX 470 is looking good for the price though.

It probably had to have at least a Full Polaris 11 to match it. Not even sure about DX12 since most low end GPUs even in AMD side benefit less.
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Not sure if bad market positioning, bad management, or trying to be bankrupt.
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Not sure if bad market positioning, bad management, or trying to be bankrupt.
Bad prices.
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So the RX 460 doesn't surpass its similarly priced last gen rival, the GTX 950, in DX11 performance? Another major letdown from this lineup. RX 470 is looking good for the price though.

Yes. It is a cut down chip and a major disappointment.

Going forward, due to its price it is a better buy than a 950, but barely. That is a failure.
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post #357 of 470
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Yes. It is a cut down chip and a major disappointment.

Going forward, due to its price it is a better buy than a 950, but barely. That is a failure.

 

Agreed, I was expecting much more in terms of improvement and differentiation with the entire Polaris range.

     
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If ONLY it were not cut down... I would have gotten one in a heartbeat. Would actually beat the 950 even now then.

Wanted a replacement for my old PC's ATI 5770. Now I am not so sure.
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I wonder if they will have a 465 model or something in between the 460 and the 470. Seems like such a large gap. I feel like this should have been the 450 model and the 460 should have been something in the middle between the 450 and 470.
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post #360 of 470

That would have made a bit more sense. As it stands the 470/480 both represent good value even if they present an odd price continuum around that $200 tier. I'd find it much more difficult to recommend the 460. It's just... odd. It makes sense as a mobile part but less so for the desktop, though at least it will allow AMD to finally stop selling low-end islands cards which is a plus. A 465 would present a potentially more interesting value play at the right price and be a contender for a spot in my HTPC. I was hoping to slot the 460 there but I'd almost rather buy a 470 given the product positioning.

     
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