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post #41 of 470
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Hoping the 460 ends up being like the HD4770

Unfortunately, we've yet to see exactly how powerful the card will be. If anything, I'm betting it's no better than the 750 Ti, which has been out since what? 2013?
     
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460 only have 896SPs, it's probably going to struggle to compete with the GTX 950 which has 768SPs but better memory compression.
the 480 is more or less a match for the 970 (in dx11), and we are talking about 2300 vs 1600 SPs.....

the 470 looks A LOT more interesting, this could the card to have, and I think the 1050 or discounted 960 will have a hard time against it.
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470 will probably have both the best perf/w and the best price/perf among Polaris

or at least better than 480
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Unfortunately, we've yet to see exactly how powerful the card will be. If anything, I'm betting it's no better than the 750 Ti, which has been out since what? 2013?

HD 7850 > gtx 750ti

Edit: and the 7850 is older, and only consumed like 35 more watts.
Edited by tkenietz - 7/13/16 at 1:15pm
post #45 of 470
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HD 7850 > gtx 750ti

Edit: and the 7850 is older, and only consumed like 35 more watts.

The 7850 consumed twice the power and the 750 Ti is just as fast. I would know, the 960M is the same thing as the 750 Ti and I smoke the 7850 in games. tongue.gif
     
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Clocks for 470 are said to be 1206mhz. 380x is 970mhz or something. Throw the 2.7x performance/watt away. Don't use marketing metrics like that as a basis for comparison.

I don't say that the 470 will be 2,7x better in performance per watt than the 270X. I say that, as AMD stated that number to establish the 470 as the most efficient polaris card. Knowing that, and that it will have a 110W TDP and that GCN loves A LOT the ~850Mhz, I think that the 470 will have around a Ghz core clock or close to that instead of the 1266Mhz core clock from the 480. Even with the cutdown cores and texture units, the clock have to be lowered to reduce 40W, as that is a 37% more to the 480. The cut down in cores is 12,5% and only (aparently) 16 TMUs are taken apart, so the rest is the same.
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post #47 of 470
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The 7850 consumed twice the power and the 750 Ti is just as fast. I would know, the 960M is the same thing as the 750 Ti and I smoke the 7850 in games. tongue.gif

Not even close, my friend...
Here are the power consumption figures. As we can see, 14W more to the 7850.
And here is the comparison, as the 370 is the same chip as the 7850.
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I don't say that the 470 will be 2,7x better in performance per watt than the 270X. I say that, as AMD stated that number to establish the 470 as the most efficient polaris card. Knowing that, and that it will have a 110W TDP and that GCN loves A LOT the ~850Mhz, I think that the 470 will have around a Ghz core clock or close to that instead of the 1266Mhz core clock from the 480. Even with the cutdown cores and texture units, the clock have to be lowered to reduce 40W, as that is a 37% more to the 480. The cut down in cores is 12,5% and only (aparently) 16 TMUs are taken apart, so the rest is the same.

That's not always the case. The GTX 480 didn't have the full 512 CUDA cores at launch because the die wasn't fully matured. For all we know, adding that last 250+ GCN cores might very well require another 30w of power just to finish the card. Though that doesn't make a lot of sense here... so we'll see. tongue.gif
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Not even close, my friend...
Here are the power consumption figures. As we can see, 14W more to the 7850.
And here is the comparison, as the 370 is the same chip as the 7850.

Not even close? Bsed on what? The subjective power draw from one website? The 750 Ti doesn't require more then 75w from the slot at most. I know because I personally own a 750 Ti that only can only draw UP TO 75w. The Zotac model has no 6-pin connector.

Furthermore, if you're comparing cards at launch VS when they matured down the road, you'll find that the 750 Ti smokes the 7850 nowadays in games. Hell, the RX 480 was just improved from the latest drivers and the power consumption issue was fixed.

TL;DR GPUs mature as time goes on. tongue.gif Drivers improve performance. 750 Ti is a better card.
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The subjective power draw from one website? The 750 Ti doesn't require more then 75w from the slot at most. I know because I personally own a 750 Ti that only can only draw UP TO 75w. The Zotac model has no 6-pin connector.

 

That it shouldn't doesn't mean that it doesn't. 750 Tis have been seen draw in excess of 100W from the slot under boost conditions.

   
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All very good - Except down here in Australia they will probably be $299 for the 460 and $349 for the $470 . mad.gif
I do not know who is profiteering but it makes my wallet bleed !
Anyway we will see !
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